Favorite MC Ren project (after N.W.A)?

[phatj]

The Villain In Black - Mind Blown

[Mat]

Kizz My Black Azz & Shock of the Hour

[Krull2025]

DJ Speed featuring MC Ren -  Super West Coast (unreleased) NO audio
Taken from "DJ Speed presents Tha Mastapiece" coming 2015.
https://www.instagram.com/djspeednwa/p/DbPYdzbvQuw/

Don't believe I've heard about this project before, anyone got more info about the project?

[The Predator]

This was sick...everything beat, bass, keys, melody all perfect  -



Khaild Muhammad's speech was itself chilling.

I wished there was just an instrumental version of this too, Cold 187um's finest.

I always hum along to it, this the kinda dark G-Funk i love.

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MC Ren's sophomore album, The Villain in Black, is the record that quietly but convincingly cements his place as the most underrated voice to emerge from N.W.A. Long overshadowed by the commercial peaks of Dre, Cube, and Eazy, Ren steps fully into his own here, delivering a focused and formidable showcase of his skills. Arriving three years after Shock of the Hour, the album reflects a period of personal change shaped by his conversion to Islam and the loss of his mentor, DJ Train. Those experiences deepen the writing, as street-level realism intertwines with political awareness and philosophical weight, all set against a cleaner, more refined G-Funk backdrop.

The opening track, "Bitch Made Nigga Killa," establishes a cold, ominous mood through subterranean bass, sharp West Coast drums, and eerie synth lines. From there, songs like "Keep It Real" and "It's Like That" strike a balance between classic G-Funk swing and the raw aggression Ren honed in his N.W.A days. Where his debut leaned heavily into horrorcore aesthetics, this album favors more traditional Hip Hop structures without sacrificing its sense of menace. That darker edge still surfaces on tracks like "Mad Scientist" and "Live From Compton ‘Saturday Night.'"

Ren's performance is consistently sharp and versatile. He shifts comfortably from braggadocious confidence on "Mind Blown" to apocalyptic intensity on "Bring It On," while tracks such as "Muhammad Speaks" weave in socio-political commentary and Nation of Islam influences. The production complements this range, pairing ribcage-rattling low end with melodic guitar touches. Guest appearances from Above the Law, Bigg Rocc, and Triggerman add texture without pulling focus.

Though a few moments lean toward familiar bravado, the album's pacing forms a cohesive arc from hostility to reflection. The Villain in Black builds on Ren's strengths with sharper writing, richer production, and greater thematic depth, making it an essential listen for fans of West Coast rap and N.W.A's deeper cuts.

The female singing vocals on TVIB was by Trski of G.B.M.

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R.i.P DJ Train

NEW YORK, NEW YORK--OCTOBER 30: DJ Train (aka Clarence Lars) performs when Rapper MC Ren (aka Lorenzo Jerald Patterson) of N.W.A. performs at The Apollo Theater on October 30, 1992 in New York City.

NEW YORK, NEW YORK--OCTOBER 29: Rapper MC Ren (aka Lorenzo Jerald Patterson) of N.W.A. and DJ Train (aka Clarence Lars) appear in a portrait taken in Times Square on October 29, 1992 in New York City.

NEW YORK, NEW YORK--OCTOBER 30: Rapper MC Ren (aka Lorenzo Jerald Patterson) of N.W.A. performs at The Apollo Theater on October 30, 1992 in New York City.

[Chad]

Don't believe I've heard about this project before, anyone got more info about the project?

It's dope record! 

[Krull2025]

[Krull2025]

[bd94s10]

Been resisting MC Ren recently since the Retrospect YouTube video I watched. A track that is one of my favorites he is featured on is the rare D.O.C. Deuce album.. "The Shit" still rides. Was almost an NWA reunion to me..

[Sccit]

Been resisting MC Ren recently since the Retrospect YouTube video I watched. A track that is one of my favorites he is featured on is the rare D.O.C. Deuce album.. "The Shit" still rides. Was almost an NWA reunion to me..

one of the greatest what ifs

the nwa reunion album


woulda been an instant classic

1.chin check
2.hello
3.set it off
4.the shit


the 4 nwa tracks from that era all bangin

[Krull2025]

Rapospective really don't like MC Ren 🫤

[The Predator]

Been resisting MC Ren recently since the Retrospect YouTube video I watched.

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Today, we're diving deeper than any documentary has ever gone into the story of The Villain of N.W.A — MC Ren.
I'll take you through his journey, uncovering the real reasons behind his fallout with Eazy-E — and why the two wouldn't speak for more than two years.

All told in his own words, pulled from rare interviews he gave back in '94.

I'll also detail how he eventually became way closer to Dre than he was with Eazy in the early 90s, despite staying on Ruthless while Dre left to create Death Row Records — even being in the studio with Dre and Snoop during the recording of The Chronic, which led to Snoop giving him a shout out on the album's intro.

We'll also explore his intertwined destiny with Snoop, from his path into the Nation of Islam to the N.W.A reunion album they began recording during the infamous Up in Smoke Tour, which was never released.

This is an independent episode tied directly to our animated docuseries, N.W.A Origins — and it's part of a collection of standalone bonus episodes highlighting the overlooked key figures who played a role in the group's rise.

Was that really a shout out on The Chronic intro?
Always sounded like a challenge to me.

[The Predator]

1.chin check
2.hello
3.set it off
4.the shit

the 4 nwa tracks from that era all bangin

Just Chin Check and Hello are N.W.A (both Dre produced/featured as well), but i get what you mean.
Even the 2 above joints mentioned really were N.W.E. (Niggaz without Eazy).

The D.O.C one was light (for their standards) and the beat of the Last Meal one sucked bad, worst on the album.
When i had read the 'Set It Off' credits on the back of the C.D. i thought woah, that's going to be the best song on it!
There was even a line in a review at the time...''Dre must of ditched the re-union album plans after hearing his old homies on that''.
Snoop dropped the ball and chose the wrong beat for that one.

one of the greatest what ifs

The N.W.A what if's were N.W.E/Helter Skelter (Ren/Snoop featured), Eazy gettin the crew back together, and Not These Niggaz Again (2001, Chin Check/Hello Era and Snoop joining in).

We missed out on all of them 

This hook up with Cube over Bobcats beat was N.W.A esque, amps me up everytime -



''They was nerds before us Ren...'' - Ice

[Sccit]

Just Chin Check and Hello are N.W.A (both Dre produced/featured as well), but i get what you mean.
Even the 2 above joints mentioned really were N.W.E. (Niggaz without Eazy).

The D.O.C one was light (for their standards) and the beat of the Last Meal one sucked bad, worst on the album.
When i had read the 'Set It Off' credits on the back of the C.D. i thought woah, that's going to be the best song on it!
There was even a line in a review at the time...''Dre must of ditched the re-union album plans after hearing his old homies on that''.
Snoop dropped the ball and chose the wrong beat for that one.

The N.W.A what if's were N.W.E/Helter Skelter (Ren/Snoop featured), Eazy gettin the crew back together, and Not These Niggaz Again (2001, Chin Check/Hello Era and Snoop joining in).

We missed out on all of them 

This hook up with Cube over Bobcats beat was N.W.A esque, amps me up everytime -



''They was nerds before us Ren...'' - Ice

both the other tracks contained 3 out the 4 members which i would say is enough to call it nwa .. i err on the side of majority

and the d.o.c is a nwa affiliate on top of that

you must not be a timbo fan if u don't fux wit set it off ... i always liked that joint personally

[The Predator]

2 out 5 members, but yew Yella dont rap.

Never considered Snoop as N.W.A but a feature even though he was meant to be the 'new member'.
There was even a feature in The Source asking fans about the reactions to new N.W.A with Snoop.
They was like Snoop's cool but he aint no Eazy-E who was a different type of cat and had the group saying and doing wild shit.
Some fans felt the same way when Cube left like we heard on the No Vaseline intro, but as he was from S.Central and some would say Ren was rappin at the same level as him in 91 so it still felt like N.W.A on efil4zaggin.

For me if Dre dont produce it, it's not N.W.A.
If Eazy's not on it, it's not N.W.A but N.W.E.

I love D.O.C and yes he played a major part and rolled with the crew, but he was not an official group member and he was taking the living piss by rapping after losing his voice ahaha.

The Set It off beat would of been fine for just Snoop, but something more explosive for such a line up was expected.
Timbo had real some heat back in the day, some duds too.
He once went crate diggin in London, found a small struggling vinyl store and bought all their indian oldies records to sample, saved the shop by doing so and turned those samples into hits, that was some player shit.

We knew why Helter Skelter was cancelled coz D.O.C was being a cokehead and ran off with all the bits and pieces for the project.
Eazy died before he could get the crew as one again.

NTNA, now why the fuck did Dre cancel that, the buck stopped with him at that point.
2 tester songs had been released, 2001 and the singles/vids were smashing, Up In Smoke tour and the DVD of it got them major attention again and was a huge success, a live performance on the Farm show and featured cover stars and interview in The Source. All but the music was ready.

Establishment always doing Ren dirty -