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Reef:

--- Quote from: Don Jacob Corleone on May 31, 2003, 12:49:46 AM ---speaking for someone who actually knows what real production is...eminem is a great producer, granted he's got dre to fall back on, he's still got better productions than premo and rza and alchemist and all those "supposed producers" ya'll go ga ga over

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LMAO thats a joke.. please tellme it is... he aint got shit on premo, rza n alchemist..

He is a good producer.. no doubt.. But not anything amazing or special.

smartass:
his beats are too repetitive. he needs to switch up some shit once in awhile. first few beats were pretty good but after that ehh..

eminem will never touch premo or rza. whoever said that should be shot.

KVB:
Yeah he's a good producer. Just not in the same category as the hiphop producer elite - Neptunes, Timbaland, Dre, Just Blaze, Kanye West. Although I must admit some of his beats are incredible ("The Way I Am", "The Cross", "'Till I Collapse"), he can't hang with the best just yet.

Don Jacob Corleone - saying Em is better than RZA and Premier is just stupid. Premier's been producing since 1987 and he's legendary, one of the greatest rap producers ever. Eminem's first beats was on the MMLP in 2000, don't you think the comparision is unfair? Don't even let me start on RZA... LOL.

quik4life:

--- Quote from: LiqwidNitrogen on May 30, 2003, 07:03:34 PM ---Your judgment on his production is not far from the truth. He is not musically "talented" (when compared to peeps like Quik and Dre), and his sound as of now sounds similar (rap/rock beats). But your statement on his song topics and lyrics is flawed. He raps about a lot of things besides his mom, wife, and Ja Rule. Listen to songs such as "Rock Bottom", "Way I Am", "Locked Up Tonight", "Role Model", etc.

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very good...you know your music....dre and quik are excellent producers...between the two, i think quik is more musically talented than dre....dre relies too heavily on sampling....and when he doesn't sample, the songs sound to 'simple'....they're good, they're bangin, i pump them up in  my car stereo, but they're simple....quik uses more variety of instruments in his productions...

my opinion about eminem's rapping IS flawed...as well it should be...cause i don't listen to eminem that much....it seems like once you hear one of his songs, it sounds like its already overplayed...the topics of his songs aren't interesting either...you gave the examples of Role Model and The Way I Am....why must "every" song be about HIM....i mean, who gives a rats ass about a white boy from detroit anyway...he's an excellent rapper and i believe he's "raised the bar" pretty high for new artists coming into the game...but the topics of his songs aren't interesting....and if they are, they're probably already been rapped about by some rapper or rockstar....

eminem's productions are fucken weak....if he wasn't on dre's dick, then he wouldn't be producing at all....he should stick to rapping and leave the productions of the songs in hands of professionals....and not in HIS novice and uncreative hands....

az

LyRiCaL_G:
fuckin soooo funny listenin that jacob "einstein" post.........damn i aint heard sum dumb shit like that in a while.....tryna claim his better than premo......


anyways.......eminem is a very good producer when his makin his own shit, i giv him that, but his beats sounds to similar and very dre unfluenced, so basically he hasnt bought nuttin new to the table yet..........but his doin his thang so i cant hate, he'll get better..........but he aint on the level of many producers alot of which have been mentioned

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