Who is the top 5 all time rappers based on this criteria......

[HighEyeCue]

Esoteric (unique rhyme and flow)
2pac (content, persona, delivery)
Eminem (wordplay, content, complex rhyme shemes)
Method Man (umique voice, delivery, cadance and flow)
Dr. Dre (voice, actimg, delivery, cadance)

is this a personal top 5?

if so really dope list

[Young Old Head]

I love seeing some underrated/forgotten, yet skilled and unique rappers being mentioned in here!
But my OCD also kicks in - can we please move this thread to the right section? 

In the streets they say youre likely to end up dead or in jail, being in the hip hop game doesnt make you exempt. One of the greatest to fall victim to this saying is Tory lanez

Easily the most versatile hip hop artist to ever exist. He has 3 different identities and is the only rapper to drop a full rap album from prison. I will challenge anyone to find me a more complete overall artist (versitile), hes the best rap artist to ever exist up there with Kanye

Rip Juice wrld, he was the future and would have been the new lil wayne the way kobe was the new jordan. At a young age he already worked with eminem and lil wayne having 4 tracks surpass 500M, 1 being 1.2B views in his early career. He also dropped a duo album with Future at only the age of 19! (wrld on drugs), He once had five songs, in the Billboard Hot 100 top 10 at the same time. The only other person to do that was the Beatles in 1964,  Wether is having the number 1 album while alive, to biggest posthumous debuts of the modern (after death), he continues to be heavily listened to and supported, and would have earned the permanent goat title knowing he would accomplish so much more had he lived longer. Especially considering all his achievements came at just the age of 21, four years younger than 2pac when he passed away

I suppose u a 2000's baby?

What's Tory Lanez 3rd "identity? He raps, he sings... Which makes him only fit 1/2 into the top 5 rapper category imo.
He ain't the first rapper to drop a full album from prison btw, there's been plenty of others done it before him (Drakeo The Ruler, X-Raided, C-Murder, Shyne)

I also think Juice WRLD doesn't fit the whole debate either: Yes he had some big hits and was an okay rapper, but I don't think his lyrics or impact was bigger than XXXtentacion's, Mac Miller's or even Lil Peep's for example. Those "sales" don't mean nearily as much anymore in this streaming era. All these achievements u mentioned don't make anyone a top 5 rapper anymore imo. Playboi Carti (31 singles in the top 100 Billboard simultaneously), Lil Uzi Vert (26 songs) and Travis Scott (25 songs) have reached similar heights in terms of charts and sales, I still wouldn't put them in my top 5 (although I could see why some ppl would put Travis Scott in there). XXX got billions of views as well as other newer artists like YoungBoy NBA, Roddy Ricch or trash artists like 6ix9ine or Lil Pump.


Based on level of skills/bars, creativity, album sales/popularity, longevity, my top 5 would be:
1. Eminem
2. Lil Wayne
3. 2Pac
4. Kendrick Lamar
5. Nas

The rest (top 10 / honorable mentions):
6. Jay-Z
7. Drake
8. Three 6 Mafia (Juicy J & DJ Paul)
9. Snoop Dogg
10. Tie between 50 Cent and 2 Chainz


My personal top 5:
1. Nas
2. Jay-Z
3. 2Pac
4. Biggie
5. Scarface

Honorable mentions: Black Thought, Kendrick Lamar, DMX, Joey Bada$$, Big Pun, Jeezy, Cormega, Eminem, Lil Wayne, Ab-Soul, Freddie Gibbs, Spice 1, Elzhi


Personal top 5 rap groups:
1. Mobb Deep
2. OutKast (really the whole Dungeon Family)
3. Wu-Tang Clan
4. DPG
5. The LOX

Honorable mentions: ATCQ, D.I.T.C., Three 6 Mafia, Cypress Hill, Tha Eastsidaz, Westside Connection, Gang Starr, Onyx, Clipse, BTNH, G-Unit, Dipset, Flatbush Zombies


And to add a new category; my personal top 5 producer-rappers:
1. DJ Quik
2. Dr. Dre
3. Kanye West
4. Pete Rock
5. Big K.R.I.T.

Honorable mentions: J Dilla, Erick Sermon, Warren G, J Cole, Black Milk, Tyler The Creator, Pimp C, Soopafly

[Sccit]

But my OCD also kicks in - can we please move this thread to the right section? 

what's the right section u think?

as a rule of thumb, any general topic that includes west coast rappers goes in the main section

[Young Old Head]

what's the right section u think?

as a rule of thumb, any general topic that includes west coast rappers goes in the main section

Hm, okay. Does that go for let's say a soundtrack that features a song with West Coast rappers on it too then? Because yeah sure, there will be a west rapper or two mentioned in a thread about the top 5 rappers of all time, but it's really about rappers from everywhere, not specifically the west 🤷‍♂️ so I think that would make it a "Outbound Connection" discussion. Just my thoughts

[Mr. T H E O]

ON THIS CRITERIA..

all these have excellent skillz, bars,sales, creativity,popularity and longevity

The quality listed in parentheses is their strongest one.

1 - 2Pac (all, skillz, bars, sales, creativity, EXTREME popularity even 30 years after death, longevity)
2 - Ice Cube (skillz,bars and sales)
3 - Drake (popularity)
4 - Kanye West (creativity) tied with Will.I.Am
5 - Lil Wayne (longevity..since 15 years rapping)


My Personal Fav Rappers Ever

1   Tupac Shakur
2   Ice Cube
3   DJ Quik
4   Suga Free
5   Rappin 4-Tay


Honorable Mention

Snoop,Mack 10,Kurupt,WC,Kam,Treach (Naughty By Nature),LL Cool J,Big L,Erick Sermon, Will Smith and The Game

[Mr. T H E O]

ON THIS CRITERIA..

all these have excellent skillz, bars,sales, creativity,popularity and longevity

The quality listed in parentheses is their strongest one.

1 - 2Pac (all, skillz, bars, sales, creativity, EXTREME popularity even 30 years after death, longevity)
2 - Ice Cube (skillz,bars and sales)
3 - Drake (popularity)
4 - Kanye West (creativity) tied with Will.I.Am
5 - Lil Wayne (longevity..since 15 years rapping)


My Personal Fav Rappers Ever

1   Tupac Shakur
2   Ice Cube
3   DJ Quik
4   Suga Free
5   Rappin 4-Tay


Honorable Mention

Snoop,Mack 10,Kurupt,WC,Kam,Treach (Naughty By Nature),LL Cool J,Big L,Erick Sermon, Will Smith and The Game

My dream is a Kanye West and will.i.am collab album, making straight-up hip-hop, produced by both of them.
These guys are from another planet.

[Sccit]

Hm, okay. Does that go for let's say a soundtrack that features a song with West Coast rappers on it too then? Because yeah sure, there will be a west rapper or two mentioned in a thread about the top 5 rappers of all time, but it's really about rappers from everywhere, not specifically the west 🤷‍♂️ so I think that would make it a "Outbound Connection" discussion. Just my thoughts

outbound is basically shit that has nothing to do with the west

if a soundtrack has a west coast hit ala above the rim with regulate then sure, u can def post it here