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Is Daz Dillinger a real producer ?
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Sccit on September 22, 2026, 07:42:04 PM ---barney rubble and soopafly are right
daz has concepts and ideas that his musicians put together .... daz is what casuals think dre is
while dre is a mastermind when it comes to the technical aspect of production (layering, eqing, structure, etc), daz has very limited knowledge of the technicalities and his strongest ability is coming up with loops on a drum machine......
dre, quik, soopafly, mike dean, ivan johnson, etc did the heavy lifting on most his productions
it's very well documented that dre ghost produced "dogg food" and gave daz the credit because they were trying to build daz up as the next big death row producer
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interesting about the drum machine loops...
Quik definitely tightened up Daz All Eyez on Me shit, and Dre polished off all his Dogg Food work and probably a lot of his pre-Dogg Food work as well like Murder Was the Case, Doggystyle, etc.
But who the fucc polished his RRGB bangers?!? Cause that whole album was flawless as well. Maybe Soopafly? Cause I know he was tight with Soopafly during the making of that record. And you got a great argument that I might've loved Soopafly's solo from around that time more if it had been a major release in the midwest and I had bumped it in its proper space and time.
But.. then there's another argument on Daz. And that's that he is not the status of a Dre or even a Quik, where he can get all these great musicians and engineers to surround him and put in all this quality work. Likely, Daz is such a pain in the ass to be around, and not even that well known outside of the dubcc to be honest (in spite of Dogg Food and All Eyez On Me work the average music fan doesn't even know him) -- POINT IS he probably does have to do a lot of shit all by himself. So I would guess he can produce records top to bottom, they just ain't going to be as dope without that mid-90's Death Row polish he had with all that talent sitting in the same studio and working on the same songs together.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: WCEric on September 24, 2026, 08:27:30 PM ---I think Daz can produce and he has signature touches like these two songs - this first song reminds me of Ambitions and this is his remix and its outside of rap:
Another one Daz did which sounds eeriely similar:
Because a lot of Daz's stuff sounds the same - he definitely has to be his own producer. I mean, sure he has co-producers or raps over other people's beats but he always credits them. I think that Daz is a producer in regards to most of what he's done in the industry and I'm sure there's stuff he's not properly credited for that might not even have his signature sound like the two records above (I.E. Doggystyle The Album). But he stays beatmaker because that's what he has the budget to do and is comfortable with and no one really gets onto him to make beats outside of his camp. I think he knows the equipment and uses it, but doesn't really produce much due to demand - he just makes beats and sequences what he likes for albums.
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DAMN!!! Homie you hooked it up.
That "Get On Up" joint is vintage 96', I had the single with that fire B-Side Wutang remix of "Freaking You" and yet now 30 years later I'm just now hearing there was this DOGG POUND remix of "GET ON UP"!! In fact, Jodeci and Dogg Pound were both at MTV Beach House August 96' performing -- I remember it like it was yesterday, Jodeci did "Get On Up" and Dogg Pound came on seperate doing "Play House" and "New York New York
That other joint is a banger as well by K-Ball. Did that ever get any radio/video play? Cause that seems pretty close to Daz prime and they thought enough of it to do a legit music video
Props for posting!
HighEyeCue:
--- Quote from: TraceOneInfinite on September 25, 2026, 02:50:52 AM ---DAMN!!! Homie you hooked it up. That "Get On Up" joint is vintage 96', I had the single with that fire B-Side Wutang remix of "Freaking You" and yet now 30 years later I'm just now hearing there was this DOGG POUND remix of "GET ON UP"!! In fact, Jodeci and Dogg Pound were both at MTV Beach House August 96' performing -- I remember it like it was yesterday, Jodeci did "Get On Up" and Dogg Pound came on seperate doing "Play House" and "New York New York
That other joint is a banger as well by K-Ball. Did that ever get any radio/video play? Cause that seems pretty close to Daz prime and they thought enough of it to do a legit music video
Props for posting!
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yeah in real time I wasn't aware of that Jodeci remix it wasn't until I found it on westcoast2k later on
nice little jab by Daz at Jermaine Dupri on his verse too..."Be careful, amateurs, when The Row pass by Lyrical drive-by, don't get mistaken for another
You ain't so def when you bustin' a rhyme in 9-6"
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: HighEyeCue on September 25, 2026, 03:28:02 AM ---yeah in real time I wasn't aware of that Jodeci remix it wasn't until I found it on westcoast2k later on
nice little jab by Daz at Jermaine Dupri on his verse too..."Be careful, amateurs, when The Row pass by Lyrical drive-by, don't get mistaken for another
You ain't so def when you bustin' a rhyme in 9-6"
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That's so weird how JD keeps getting dissed by Death Row affiliates and yet all along all of them were friends, SMH
Kriss Kross tells stories of learning to sip 40's and shit at a young age with the Dogg Pound. Many mentions of parties where they were hanging out in Atlanta at JD/So So Def parties. One of the first artists Snoop collabed with when he was trying to break free of Death Row was JD for JD's first solo and first solo single on "Wanna Party" but because of Snoop still kind of being tied to Death Row it was restricted from going on the album so JayD had to make a version of Usher to launch his album. But I specifically remember rollin around and bumpin this single when Snoop was still technically on Death Row (but stranded, just months before joining Master P)
Again, that fascinating lost era of West Coast Rap between the fall of Death Row and resurgence era sparked by "Bitch Please" feat. Xzibit prod. by Dre
^^This is the version JayD said he had to make when he couldn't get Snoop cleared for the album (probably because of Suge)
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Sccit on September 24, 2026, 08:43:17 PM ---
like i said earlier, i put him in that second tier
tier 1
dre
quik
warren
battlecat
timbo
premo
pete rock
dilla
rza
havoc
tier 2
daz
meech
jellyroll
storch
fredwreck
soopafly
pooh
alchemist
hit-boy
uneek
just a random 10 names to showcase the difference in tiers
there are others who can fit into both (and some in between)
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Not bad tiers but Daz is the second greatest producer of all time behind Dre. And Johnny J needs to be in one of those tiers
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