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S.G.V.:
--- Quote from: C2Knuckles on July 02, 2003, 06:24:04 PM ---In my mind there is a different in being pop and making commercial music.
Eminem is pop but (for the most part) does not make commercial music.
I find it funny how popularity changes some people's opinions of thier music. Someone like DJ Quik makes more commercial music than Eminem or 50 Cent. "Hand In Hand" or "Pitch In On A Party" are more commercial than "Without Me" or "In Da Club" and if those two songs blew up people would start talking shit about Quik and putting him in the "pop-music" category.
I don't think I worded it well. :-\
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more commercial than "without me?" lmao...thats ridiculous...
Don Breezio:
--- Quote from: S.G.V. on July 03, 2003, 10:03:45 PM ---more commercial than "without me?" lmao...thats ridiculous...
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lol...i agree on that one...theres nothing more commercial than without me.
--- Quote ---not a big nelly fan but some of his tracks are really good...for some reason air force ones is one of my fav tracks of the year....
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i hated that song...i used to love nelly...i loved everything he did until i heard that. i never thought his lyrics were that bad...until he made a song about shoes! seriously...i would rather hear about bitches and ice...i dont give a shit about his shoes! lol...i lost a lot of respect for nelly after that song dropped...even when it was just on the album i had the same respect for him i always had...but when it became a video and shit...and everyone started lovin the song about shoes...shit i thought hip hop had officially died. it sure as hell isnt in good health.
West Coast Veteran:
--- Quote from: Don Breezio on July 03, 2003, 10:44:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: S.G.V. on July 03, 2003, 10:03:45 PM ---more commercial than "without me?" lmao...thats ridiculous...
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lol...i agree on that one...theres nothing more commercial than without me.
--- Quote ---not a big nelly fan but some of his tracks are really good...for some reason air force ones is one of my fav tracks of the year....
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i hated that song...i used to love nelly...i loved everything he did until i heard that. i never thought his lyrics were that bad...until he made a song about shoes! seriously...i would rather hear about bitches and ice...i dont give a shit about his shoes! lol...i lost a lot of respect for nelly after that song dropped...even when it was just on the album i had the same respect for him i always had...but when it became a video and shit...and everyone started lovin the song about shoes...shit i thought hip hop had officially died. it sure as hell isnt in good health.
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What about when Run DMC did the classic "My Adidas"?
Don Breezio:
lol ppl always ask that...i never really felt that song either...i didnt lose any respect for them as a result of it because they have done so much for hip hop that losing respect for them is like losing a piece of hip hop itself..they have enough room to make a fuck up song now and then (and im probably the only person who thinks of that song that way)...either way i dont hate that song like i do air force ones...but the lyrics of it are...eh.
D.R.E.-Dogg:
--- Quote from: S.G.V. on July 03, 2003, 10:02:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: The Hoe Hopper on July 02, 2003, 02:50:19 AM ---no they have an won style of 'singin' plus it's not all singin
some of em got a very fast flow n shit
Ja Rule obviesly sings just check out that single with Ashanti some time ago..
speakin on features.. that's another aspect of being pop/RnB.. Ashanti kinda is Ja's standart feature.. that's not HipHop
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ja doesnt sing notes homie...he just softens his voice...and ashanti is on jas label....shes r & b...nate dogg isnt hip hop...and hes on 50's song...so whats the difference?...ur reachin...ur reachin a lot...hip hop and r & b have always had a good relationship....theyve always collabed...that doesnt take away from ur credability as a hip hop artist...
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Ja does sing without a doubt.. I know he sometimes just softens his voice as u call it but he sings too.. that track he did with R. Kelly was just a RnB song with 2 RnB singers.. one of em having Ja's horrible singing voice
Nate is something different he got a unique style and his hooks are hiphop hooks.. Danny Boy is an example for a typical RnB cat who jut had collabos with rappers.. Nate on the other hand ain't hiphop on solo shit cuz that's 100% singin but on hooks he is..
I ain't gotta tell u the difference, u know it.. Ashanti solo is pop Nate solo isn't, Ashanti hooks are RnB Nate hooks are HipHop
anyway I never said I mind rappers singin hooks but Ja either sings verses or 75% of his tracks consists of the hook.. that's RnB
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