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S.Korea vs Italy
Juice:
There's no conspiracy if your nation is not in war with FIFA, man. But if they are in war, it cant be only unluck.
You agree?
Yes, the penalty was a penalty (same one of Spain). I disagree about the rule made for this WC to punish those contacts, but it was a penalty according to the new rules.
But it's not like that, man. Like UEFA said, it's a record! 5 regular goals, + Totti red card + Tommasi golden goal + wars with FIFA = dumb (rookie) refree and enemy number 1 linesman.
It's too much to just say "it happens", sorry.
P.S.
Yes, i remember England vs Argentina. Like i remember Brazil vs Belgium, or Brazil vs Turkey. BUT:
1) ENGLAND vs ARGENTINA was been a mistake of the refree because of a dumb Argentina player simulated, just like Rivaldo. Plus it's a bad game. You have all the rights to be mad because of it. But do you remember the refree? He wasnt unknown/bad. It happens, and fuck Argentina for doing it.
2) BRAZIL vs TURKEY. I remember the day after Turkey made so much noise that in their next 2 games they had the italian Collina, the best refree of the world (at least according to FIFA). What about Italy? A rookie. After all the mistakes. And number 1 enemy linesman of Italy. It aint a concidence, man. Damn, you dont add suspects if you dont have a reason. Why then they chosed them? Easly enemies of Italy.
3) BRAZIL vs BELGIUM. Like i wrote, it's a scandal. But it was been just 1 bad decision in a game. And Brazil then won 2-0.
ITALY... it's all different! When they are 3 consecutive games like that, it's not "it can happen" no more, man! 3 consecutive, with UEFA talking about a record and shit like that. Just add the 2 regular goals against Croatia, for example, and we was probably 1st, playing with USA instead of Korea. But to think like that it's just like making a speculation about everything.
We are home again, with UEFA talking about records and with FIFA saying "that's soccer". WOW!
Jay ay Beee:
--- Quote --- I disagree about the rule made for this WC to punish those contacts
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Why????
You're not allowed to pull shirts - it's cheating
Juice:
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Why????
You're not allowed to pull shirts - it's cheating
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You right. But it's not like that in our tournament. That's why Panucci looked like a dumb. Cause we do it in our Serie A. It's regular in Italy.
Oh.. and watch Vieri's goal. There are 2 penalties, if that's the method. It's the same with Spain. It aint a penalty in Spain too. But, like i wrote, it was a penalty according to World Cup rules, and we knew that. So it's cool.
Don Seer:
listen... even if its unfair..... SHIT WON'T CHANGE NOW.
Its too late.
p.s. Is it true italians a rioting at home?
btw.. english hooligans never riot about this stuff at home.. they'd beat the other team at the ground ;)
Juice:
--- Quote ---p.s. Is it true italians a rioting at home?
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Not true. That's again speculation. The whole Italy is mad against the refree and against Trapattoni, not against Korea. Nobody gives a fuck about them. They were nobody since the start of World Cup, and they still are nobody, for us. The problem is political, like i explained. And the 2nd problems is with Trapattoni. Not with Korea. They did what they had to do. If the refree is totally for your team, and you play your game, and you win, the problem is the refree, not the team. And in our situation the problem is the lack of power of Italy vs FIFA and our war against them. That we lost. Like that.
Korea still played a game, no matter what. Ok, we probably deserved to WIN (just because of Tommasi's offside, i dont want to talk about wars and other things..), but we didnt. That's soccer. Sweden probably deserved to win against Senegal too, EIRE against Spain, etc.. But that's soccer. Now the scenario is dramatic for us. Cause we will probably fire both Trapattoni, our FIFA delegate, and our Serie A boss. All in 1 shot. And they are talking about quitting FIFA too, here. Just to let you understand how this aint only "soccer related", but it was been MORE THAN THAN. Peace.
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