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Report says schools are unfair to America

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Woodrow:

--- Quote from: Irish_thug_wannabe on September 11, 2003, 03:20:46 PM --- like with your friends, if you have a weak mate then you should look out for him, not just say its up to him to learn how to fight and stand up for himself.
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Wouldn't you rather have your friend be able to stand up for himself so when you aren't around he can handle things for himself?

UnstoppableForce:
Aren't we as a nation trying to look out for the general welfare and aim at equality of the entire population? Should we not help the poor get on its feet and raise their living standards to bring it a little closer to ours?

Don Jacob:
^they got to meet us half way though

america has one of the most mobile class system, you can go from the bottom to the top IF you have the drive. people don't relise how much opportunity is out there if you quit feeling bad for yourself and strive for a better life. yeah i need help from the government to go to college right now.....but i'm meeting them half way by trying my best.

UnstoppableForce:
^^ I agree... in no country does a person have more opportunity to make something of themselves as here in the U.S.  I don't expect the government to do everything for these people, or support them for the rest of their lives. I just think the government should give them a little push, you know what I mean? Some of these people just don't know what's available and out there for them, I think the government should help at making them aware. I don't know if what I'm saying is making sense to you, but in no way am I saying is that we should just throw money at these people so they can live better.

ITW [the irish boy]:

--- Quote from: Engel-Rock AKA Dances With Bitch on September 11, 2003, 03:34:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: Irish_thug_wannabe on September 11, 2003, 03:20:46 PM --- like with your friends, if you have a weak mate then you should look out for him, not just say its up to him to learn how to fight and stand up for himself.
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Wouldn't you rather have your friend be able to stand up for himself so when you aren't around he can handle things for himself?

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Ironically, that is exactly my point. I believe that we as the stronger members of the group should both protect the weak guy AND try to help him get to the standard where he can stand up for himself (i.e help the poor bridge the class gap) The ultimate aim would be for this guy to longer be the weakest link, and to do that you need to both protect(not overprotect) and help them grow. Thats why I believe that not only do you need handouts, but you need re-education programmes etc (the equivelent of eradicating the guys fear of not being able to stand up for himself, and giving him lessons in how to fight) Would you agree that this would be a just system??

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