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Proposition 54 (Color Blind State?)
Don Jacob:
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--- Quote from: Don Jacob Corleone on September 17, 2003, 11:01:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: The Governator on September 17, 2003, 07:57:23 PM ---This ranks right up there with the Patriot Act and the Emancipation Proclamation as the biggest pile of bullshit.
Patriot Act.... give up your freedom for security... security of freedom that is.... so basically we're giving up our freedoms in order so they can protect the freedoms they just took from us.... We're sooo smart ::)
Emancipation Proclamation.... after the Confederate states seceded from the Union, Lincoln proclaimed all slaves in those states FREE...yet he allowed slavery in the border states so that he wouldn't lose their support... so how many slaves did this proclamation free? ZERO... BTW him eliminating slaves in the Confederacy would be like Bush raising taxes in Canada...
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how ironic, you said i was talking out my ass...
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Yes, YOU were talking out of your ass. Proposition 54 prohibits the classificaton by race, and your DUMBASS says:
"i'll probably vote for it i guess, but it's a stupid proposition. all it's doing is asking for your race/ethinicity"
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i'm sorry but you just said the same thing i said in my post , all it's doing is asking if you want your ethnicity to be known....i'm sorry you don't know how to read , quit being so emotional. i'm sorry that's talking out of YOUR ass when all you did was jump on my case and we said the same thing. damn do you need some bloating pills or something? cuz i never had a problem with you before.
:: marks on caldendar governators 'time of the month' from the 15th-?::
UnstoppableForce:
Proposition 54 says that:
“The state shall not classify any individual by race, ethnicity, color or national origin in the operation of public education, public contracting or public employment.”
Endorsers claim that it will save the state budget money. They claim that government is forbidden to discriminate against or grant special treatment to any citizen based on race, so they say that government should never and has no reason to ask people for their race.
PROS: government saves some money; no more checking boxes for your race
EFFECTS ON HEALTHCARE:
Information enables public health professionals to target life-saving programs to those who have the greatest risks, those who can benefit the most. We use statistical analyses of such information to track health problems, identify who is most affected by them, and to develop strategies and programs to stop the spread of disease, reduce death rates and improve the health of all communities. Our clinics are successful because we utilize data by race and ethnicity to develop specific programs to meet the varying needs of each community no matter the race or ethnicity.
The California Medical Association, California Nurses Association, California Primary Care Association, American Cancer Society, California Association of Health Plans, Kaiser Permanente and the UCLA School of Public Health denounce the initiative's so-called medical exemption, which they called dangerously misleading.
EFFECTS ON EDUCATION:
Under Prop 54, we will only be able to know that Latino and African Americans get lower test scores, graduate from high school at lower rates, and are underrepresented at the University of California. However, Prop 54 will forbid us to know anything about why. We will not be able to monitor whether students are provided or denied qualified teachers, decent school facilities, solid academic coursework, extra support programs, or the chance to prepare for college. We will not know whether school discipline practices are used fairly or unfairly, or whether suspensions and expulsions are keeping struggling students of color out of school. We willnot know whether college admissions practices are fair, or whether all groups of students have access to student services, financial aid, and many other programs in higher education.
Why does this matter? Without complete information and good research, policymakers, educators, and the public will not know why we have such pervasive racial gaps in school achievement and college-going rates. Even worse, without this information, we cannot fix the problems that perpetuate the gaps. Under Prop 54, the policymakers and educators will have to guess about which policies to revise and which services to provide.
UnstoppableForce:
--- Quote from: Don Jacob Corleone on September 16, 2003, 11:29:52 PM ---i'll probably vote for it i guess, but it's a stupid proposition. all it's doing is asking for your race/ethinicity .
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Prop 54 eliminates the question of race, and you say "all its doing is asking for race/ethinicity". So, we're saying the complete opposite. I rest my case, you're an idiot.
Woodrow:
--- Quote from: Jay ay Beee on September 18, 2003, 11:25:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: Engel-Rock AKA Dances With Bitch on September 18, 2003, 10:58:20 AM ---can't smoke cigarettes but wants to legalize "medicinal" pot?
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Seems very sensible to me.
Both Canada and Britain are funding medical marijuana. And both countries will soon provide it on their health services.
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It would WOULDN'T It. ::)
seems like liberal versions of sodomy laws to me
Real American:
Everyone should vote for Prop 54. It isn't the governments business what race anyone is.
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