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Arnie's facing problems!!!
AWS SS 88:
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--- Quote from: AWS SS 88 on October 03, 2003, 01:41:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: lil bullet aka on October 02, 2003, 11:17:00 PM ---There is also news that Arnold's father was a nazi ... and Arnold wrote an unpublished book ... expressing that ideas of Hitler being a good leader...
that is kinda scary... :-\
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hit WAS a good leader,maybe you should read up on how good off germany was once he came to power.
you may not like him for the person he was,but theres no way you can say he was a bad leader.
and im curious,why would it matter if his father was a nazi or not? it doesnt mean arnold is,thats like saying you are an alcoholic just because one of your parents are.
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hitler was also responsible for thousands and thousands of deaths... not only to the jewish community... but the polish... homosexuals... criminals.. people who refused to support him...
a good leader takes care of alll his people... not just the ones who are like him... that is not america.... i dont trust arnold... he doesnt make a good representation for me and people like me... davis march for chavez... and cruz... knows what it is like to be a stuggling chicano...
arnold... has no vote... from me...
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obviously he didnt consider them his people now did he,he considered aryans his people. why dont you read up on the state that germany was in after ww1 up to the point when he came into power. the country did a 180,the people obviously lived better lives once he came into power
Casper:
Hitler was a great political leader. He just used his power the wrong way. I mean who else can get millions of people to follow him and his beliefs? If he used it to better use he would be an even better leader IMO.
AWS SS 88:
--- Quote from: A.G. on October 03, 2003, 06:18:41 PM ---Hitler was a great political leader. He just used his power the wrong way. I mean who else can get millions of people to follow him and his beliefs?
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good point,but actually a lot of the german people were becoming weary of the jews before hitler came into power,so the anti semetism wasnt just him, a lot of germany was starting to hate jews too
Casper:
--- Quote from: AWS SS 88 on October 03, 2003, 06:20:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: A.G. on October 03, 2003, 06:18:41 PM ---Hitler was a great political leader. He just used his power the wrong way. I mean who else can get millions of people to follow him and his beliefs?
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good point,but actually a lot of the german people were becoming weary of the jews before hitler came into power,so the anti semetism wasnt just him, a lot of germany was starting to hate jews too
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Only if the US was like that...
UnstoppableForce:
This thread has touched on several points:
--- I, and other people shouldn't care about Arnold messing around with those women back in the days, because he wasn't doing it while in office, it doesn't change the way he performs his job, and it has nothing to do with his role as a governor... What Clinton did was worse, and even that I don't think was anybody's business, except for when he lied about it, then it became the people's concern
--- Arnold's dad being a Nazi doesn't mean Arnold is
--- Those 2 ^^^ points have nothing to do with his political role, but I wouldn't vote for him regardless, for other reasons.
--- Hitler was a political mastermind. He was a great leader. Cruel... yes... but you can't deny him being a good leader. What he did with jobs, the economy, the national spirit, etc was amazing. In addition, anti-Semitism existed in Germany, in fact all of Europe, long before Hitler's arrival. There never really was a leader to feel so strongly about it though that gave the people the chance to express their feelings. Also, the country was at its lowest point, and people needed spirit. Hitler made them feel proud, and they couldn't blame themselves for their problems, so they conveniently used the Jews as a scapegoat, since they didn't really like them to begin with.
--- I in no way think that what Hitler did was right. The things he did to these people was horrible. Medical experiments, burning in ovens, gas chambers, etc... cruel fucked up shit.
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