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Joachim:

--- Quote from: Jay ay Beee on October 12, 2003, 09:27:08 PM ---Beckham got booked for the elbow.  Which means the FA are not allowed to review it because the ref took action at the time

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/2261181.stm Read that.


--- Quote ---The same with Legwinski.  The ref clearly saw it, watched a replay of it after, and correctly judged that Ruud was attempting to get free of Legwinski who was all over him thus not including it in his report - so theFA can't review it.
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So you can elbow people in the face to 'get free' of them? Come off it.



--- Quote ---Ruud punching Freddie?  Which match?
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When we won the league in Manchester, dunno if the link still works but:  www.jazz.nildram.co.uk/LjungbergPunch.wmv

Also what about Ruud's flying kick into Lauren in the FA Cup game last year, fucking joke.


--- Quote ---You need to check out the rules because 2 out of 3 of your examples are definitely not valid.
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Which 2?


--- Quote ---Remember when Vieira kikced Dacourt in the throat, and headbutted another Leeds player (sorry don't rememba who) in the same game?  That went before the FA - Not even charged.
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The difference is it went before the FA, Man Utd's rarely make it that far.

Man fuck Rio he's excuses are weak, Rio bounced on the test, why? Maybe he had something too hide or maybe he's dumb enough to think nobody would notice.

Jay ay Beee:
Jesus christ Joachim catch up


"The difference is it went before the FA, Man Utd's rarely make it that far"

I've just pissed all over your examples.

I was wrong about Beckham getting booked, but the free kick was given.  This means that Winter acknowledges he saw the incident, therefore, under FA rules they can't use video evidence to charge him.

I suspect that you haven't seen Ruud's goal of the season for a loong ass time.  Few things I want to point out.  He lifted his arm up, and the point of his elbow was nowhere near his face.  When you elbow someone you throw your arm out (Sol).  Ruud threw his arm up because Legwinski had his shoulder in a vice.  Contact was made with the face and forearm, but this was purely accidental.  Also, watch as Legwinski only starts grabbing his face in pain when he realises Ruud is going to go through on goal.  And as the ref chose not to report this (quite rightly) IT CAN'T GO BEFORE THE FA.

You've shifted your entire argument - from being anti FA, now it's somehow the referee's fault that they don't allow incidents to get to the FA.

Ashley Cole kicked Solskjaer in the charity shield, it didn't go to the FA b/c the ref saw it.  He didn't see Campell kicking Djemba.  Is this getting through to you now?

Joachim:

--- Quote from: Jay ay Beee on October 13, 2003, 07:13:12 AM ---Jesus christ Joachim catch up


"The difference is it went before the FA, Man Utd's rarely make it that far"

I've just pissed all over your examples.

I was wrong about Beckham getting booked, but the free kick was given.  This means that Winter acknowledges he saw the incident, therefore, under FA rules they can't use video evidence to charge him.

I suspect that you haven't seen Ruud's goal of the season for a loong ass time.  Few things I want to point out.  He lifted his arm up, and the point of his elbow was nowhere near his face.  When you elbow someone you throw your arm out (Sol).  Ruud threw his arm up because Legwinski had his shoulder in a vice.  Contact was made with the face and forearm, but this was purely accidental.  Also, watch as Legwinski only starts grabbing his face in pain when he realises Ruud is going to go through on goal.  And as the ref chose not to report this (quite rightly) IT CAN'T GO BEFORE THE FA.

You've shifted your entire argument - from being anti FA, now it's somehow the referee's fault that they don't allow incidents to get to the FA.

Ashley Cole kicked Solskjaer in the charity shield, it didn't go to the FA b/c the ref saw it.  He didn't see Campell kicking Djemba.  Is this getting through to you now?

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Where did i blame the refs for anything? Where did you 'piss all over my arguments'?

I aint getting into this any further, you're just dismissing my argument by claiming i don't understand, thats poor from you.  On a sidenote Vieira got a one game ban for the dacourt kick from the FA despite the ref seeing the incident, maybe theres been a rule change.

Sol:

--- Quote from: Jay ay Beee on October 12, 2003, 09:27:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: Joachim on October 09, 2003, 09:03:26 AM ---Remember when Beckham got charged for elbowing Bowyer last season? Me neither. Or when Van Nistelrooy Punched Freddie and he got charged? Me Neither. Or what about when Ruud elbowed legwinski and left him with a black eye? Oh hang on... your argument just fell over.

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Beckham got booked for the elbow.  Which means the FA are not allowed to review it because the ref took action at the time.  The same with Legwinski.  The ref clearly saw it, watched a replay of it after, and correctly judged that Ruud was attempting to get free of Legwinski who was all over him thus not including it in his report - so theFA can't review it.  

Ruud punching Freddie?  Which match?


You need to check out the rules because 2 out of 3 of your examples are definitely not valid.

Rio is banned from driving correct.  He offered to go straight back but the inspectors had gone home.

Remember when Vieira kikced Dacourt in the throat, and headbutted another Leeds player (sorry don't rememba who) in the same game?  That went before the FA - Not even charged.



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Im 99.999% sure that a free kick was given for that 'kick' on Dacourt, meaning the ref saw it, yet it still went before the FA.


And RVN getting away with punching Freddie was a disgrace. It is clear as anything on the TV.

Adam Donnelly:
I think U guys should set up an Arsenal Vs United Board  ;D

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