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How da Fuck did Arnold Win the Govenorship
PinkTowelGirl:
--- Quote from: Buddy Holly on October 08, 2003, 06:42:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:TimeLock:. on October 07, 2003, 11:20:05 PM --- he's a fucking actor how the fuck people took him serious???
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Did you vote against him?
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i did... and almost voted for gary coleman ;D
Trauma-san:
It's simple why people voted for him. Democratic leadership has ran california into the ground. It's hurt them where they hurt the most, in their pocketbook. Minorities don't care as much about this, because many are low wage earners, and don't have to pay taxes at the end of the year because of our graded tax schedule.
Gray Davis made huge, huge mistakes while in office. The democratic california Senate made huge, huge mistakes, and are still in office. Californians were tired of the democratic politics of the last 5 years.
Gray Davis made a decision early on in the campaign; that he didn't want any credible democrats running against him; he felt that if they had no better democrat to vote for, the californian people (who are largely democrat) would vote no on the recall. Bustamante stabbed Davis in the back, and ran. Luckily, Bustamante has also been tainted by the inadequacy of the Davis adminstration, since he's lieutenant governor.
In the end, Californians were tired of Davis's politics... I mean, you guys do realize that he accepted illegal campaign contributions from Indian reservations, correct? Why is their no outrage over this?
With no democrat to elect, Californians simply elected the most moderate, charismatic candidate. Between Arnold, and Tom McClintock, californians voted almost 60% of the vote for REPUBLICANS, in a highly democratic state. The reason? The democratic party has shifted so far to the left, it alienates even DEMOCRATS. Most Democrats are moderates, and do not agree with the extreme liberal thinking of the california senate, of Davis' administration.
PinkTowelGirl:
--- Quote from: Buddy Holly on October 08, 2003, 06:50:04 AM ---It's simple why people voted for him. Democratic leadership has ran california into the ground. It's hurt them where they hurt the most, in their pocketbook. Minorities don't care as much about this, because many are low wage earners, and don't have to pay taxes at the end of the year because of our graded tax schedule.
Gray Davis made huge, huge mistakes while in office. The democratic california Senate made huge, huge mistakes, and are still in office. Californians were tired of the democratic politics of the last 5 years.
Gray Davis made a decision early on in the campaign; that he didn't want any credible democrats running against him; he felt that if they had no better democrat to vote for, the californian people (who are largely democrat) would vote no on the recall. Bustamante stabbed Davis in the back, and ran. Luckily, Bustamante has also been tainted by the inadequacy of the Davis adminstration, since he's lieutenant governor.
In the end, Californians were tired of Davis's politics... I mean, you guys do realize that he accepted illegal campaign contributions from Indian reservations, correct? Why is their no outrage over this?
With no democrat to elect, Californians simply elected the most moderate, charismatic candidate. Between Arnold, and Tom McClintock, californians voted almost 60% of the vote for REPUBLICANS, in a highly democratic state. The reason? The democratic party has shifted so far to the left, it alienates even DEMOCRATS. Most Democrats are moderates, and do not agree with the extreme liberal thinking of the california senate, of Davis' administration.
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if you really knew anything.. you would have known the the problems of california started with pete wilson... and davis had to bare and make due with he had left over....
there was also so many people running in california is was ridiculious... and if they wouldnt have ran... the question is this.. were would there vote have gone? that porn star received... over 9,000 votes... and gary colman was about 13,000...
arnold is an idiot.. and i will be glad when he gets proscuted and bustmante will take over...
ITW [the irish boy]:
From what ive read, recalls are supposedly only for criminal activities, and not simply being a crap politician. It may be that davis was a crap politician but the decision to recall him could set a worrying precedent for the future. If you can just oust unpopular leaders by launching a recall, then surely this will have awful effects on long term vision of leaders, as they try to simply satisfy there electorate for the time being and not set provisions for the future.
As for Arnie winning it, it has made the election, at least in this part of the world seem like a joke and enhance the idea that americans are stupid. But I think people forget that he's not the stupid dumbass he plays in all his films. While it seems ridiculous that arnold,of all actors, could get elected but i think as trauma said, it's because he's more middle of the road. Maybe the latino guy would have been better but itll be interesting to see how arnold can take on the big guns in politics. Good luck to him (at least he's married to a chriver, who will no doubt keep him in check)
eNgIeS:
--- Quote from: /\ Javier /\ on October 08, 2003, 06:24:40 AM ---who would think somebody could win if this was happening during their campaign......
-Only debate that he partcipated in was a debate with the questions handed to you before hand
- Held Town hall meetings (invitation only)
- Used movie quotes to "fire" up the people
- Charges of groping etc etc
- Apologizing for something he is denying...uhh wtf?
- Bitching about special interest money with Davis...but receiving special interest from his "friends"...yea big time corporations are his "friends"
- Promising he will not raise taxes. LOL oh yea thats gonna happen.
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Are stupid or just cant read
He came out & apologized because SOME of those claims were true. HOWEVER as i already said EARLIER, Arnold is a prankster esspecially on long tiring sets, there may have been a few times he did things he thought were jokes & didnt realize it offended them, & he apologized. My dad, & many other men for that matter, I know have done little jokes or pranks that involved slapping somes ass or poking there tits
& you've gotta consider the validity of those claims. Here is a man, who has been famous for 3 decades, why havent these reports come out before, they only came out when he went for govenor. Theres alot of people who will do dirty things for money. I mean why would Arnie threaten to rape a girl during the 70's when in fact he was known to have thousands of groupies who he would sleep with.
Arnold is a great man, & even if you dont think he cant be a govenor successfully, at least respect him a great person
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