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Mainstream/Underground argument (Lets set this str8)
Don Breezio:
--- Quote from: AcGrundy aka budsmokeronly on October 24, 2003, 12:57:12 AM ---
--- Quote ---I LIKE JA RULE (yes i said it)
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If I were you, I would never admit that again.
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Why? just cuz 90% of the people on this board cant see past the singles he drops...he makes good songs on his albums they just dont get put on the radio and nobody ever listens to them and then he gets criticized for being "soft"...so i will say it again...I LIKE JA RULE
budsmokeronly:
I hate Ja rule, and I don't even listen to his shit singles, much less any crap that don't become a single. Sorry but I can no longer trust your opinion. and that goes for all who like ja rule.
We Fly High:
i second that acgrundy, i cant trust ur opinion either when u bumpin some ja rule. when you say that 90% of the board cant see past the singles he drops, man too bad its because hes dropped like 10 consecutive wack singles, what the fuck does that say about him. man i was listening to atmosphere and all them like 5 years back, back when underground hip hop was in a good state, with all these guys starting to come up and release good shit, and then now its fucking saturated with all these backpack people trying to spit out any scientific word that fucking rhymes. shit just gets mad repetetive, when thats all you hear.
rasco said it best "It's like, how in the hell do these cats even sell? Be spittin big words your ass can't even spell"
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: Raw~Craiga on October 23, 2003, 06:59:05 PM ---Aight... First off, I am gonna come out sayin' hip hop is hip hop whether its mainstream or underground..This whole commercial hatin' shit gotta stop. The catagories should be Dope/Wack rappers, and should not be catagorized on how many units they sell.Flashback to the beginin of hip hop to about 96'. Notice there wasn't really a distinct split between "Shiny suit rap"/Underground shit. Hip hop was hip hop back then. Either you were dope or wack. I wish it was like that.. There is so much hatin' on Eminem cuz he 'sold out' in there eyes. Why hate on him when he is better than 95 percent of whats on the radio right now.Think about this, what if you were like Eminem.You came from the bottom, sellin records out of ya trunk or what not.Would you be like "Oh im gonna be underground forever cuz they are doper and be broke my whole life". Of course you wouldn't.. You would want to be at the top. Nobody goes through life wanting to be at the bottom. Yeah there are dope lyricists in both of the imaginary worlds of 'mainstream' and 'underground'..I am a fan of the dope lyricists...If you go to a site like UGHH.com and check there forums. You cannot post there about a mainstream artist or u will get attacked with shit like "Oh he sold out" or "Copywrite and Eastern Conferance are 100 times doper"..The ignorant underground fans will attack you for anything "mainstream" u listen to.. I hear it everywhere..I understand about opinions and people may not like alot of mainstream artists. But some people purposely attack people because of what people they listen to..If someone likes shady/Aftermath they are not a dickrider.It is there opinion..
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I agree 100%.
abstruse:
If you dont understand the music, it doesn't mean its tight, nor wack. Pickup a book kids, build up on your vocabulary. And it's not only underground rappers who spit 'big/scientific' words, eminem does it all the time, when he raps about pills or drugs, kurupt and rosco always throw around that 'psychoschematic, automatic, static, bubonic, supersonic' shit all the time. Don't hate on an emcees ability to use 'superwords' to express his feelings, instead of spittin at a 3rd grade reading level, goddamn what hip-hop has come to nowadays...
*leaves thread bumping eyedea - music music*
I'll be writing till I'm dead or maybe till I'm alive
All the emptiness I've bled has only helped me survive
Something melted inside when the tones hit my pulse
And stifled the idle eagerness to grow into my clothes
No one that I know is any longer good at actin'
Like they comprehend the motive uncoated to feed the corroded passion
Actually needs to stay eye level with the rest
That's the least I deserve for the love that I've shed
I've trudged through the sediment in search of the rhythm
Dove soul first to bathe nude in its abyss
Paid dues and made music my religion
Now I listen, close my eyes, and forget I even exist
I sing a bastard's tune, inspired by the noise
The ship made before it sank and was finally destroyed
I flaunt the grin of a man made for disguising a boy
Who tried to avoid showing the cry in his voice
But there's something special about the notes that he hears
Those scales are redemption, unraveling repressed memories
And when he breathes, a new energy enters and consumes him
To heal his wounds and unseal his doom
If only I could make you understand
But words are just words so I can't
The universe's deepest art form keeps my heart warm with influence
I tell ya
Ain't nothing quite as beautiful as Music
To be an angel, you gotta earn your wings
To control your own, you gotta burn your strings
To hit blackjack, you gotta turn a king
But to live forever, all you gotta do is learn to sing
I get a pleasure that's inevitably immeasurable
And I won't let it be rejected by no man
Why does it have to be so damn difficult
To live in the frame of a game that will slit your throat?
But I've dug in the mud in search of the drum
Dove soul first to bathe nude in its abyss
Stayed true to the music, now my favorite thing to do is
Close my eyes and forget that I even exist
I hold this fistful of degenerate ideas
For every genius that was murdered in the name of Jesus
Still deaf to the bells that claimed to free us
But I pay homage to my melody æcause she's the sweetest
The core of our spirit is naked
The form of its lyrics are sacred
Blanketed by the original sound of the inner vibrations
I'm floating on the soft clouds of positive creation
See, I can look at a painting and admire the colors
Or appreciate any type of art that I discover
But what I dig's invisible
It's my teacher and I'm its student
I tell ya
Ain't nothing quite as beautiful as Music
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