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"The Love Below" (Listen Again for the First Time).....
Suga Foot:
--- Quote from: Trauma on November 01, 2003, 02:41:58 PM ---In comparison to other concept albums, it sucks. Maybe to you it's genius because you've never heard anything similar, but evvvvvverybody has done this. Album didn't impress me at all.
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Name some similar ones for me to check out. please
T.J.:
i never really had time to listen to the album from start to finish so i never really thought this was a concept album until you explained it. i think i'll understand it a bit more now.
Trauma-san:
Alright, this might blow your mind, but it's actually been done hundreds of times. We'll start at the beginning, LOL
The first Concept album was arguably The Beatles, with "Revolver", but it wasn't totally, track for track, a concept album. It was the first time though that bands started experimenting with the entire album being 1 piece, as opposed to a collection of singles.
The Beach Boys heard about this, and their resident Genius, Brian Wilson, made the first true concept album, "Pet Sounds". It's about a guy (Brian Wilson's) Journey to adult life. The first song is about this awesome girl he knows, and how great it would be if they were married "Wouldn't it be Nice"... then he goes through songs about problems they have, eventually leading to their demise. The song "You Still Believe In Me" is Paul McCartney's favorite song of all time, it's a beautiful song about how the girl still believes in him after he's messed her over so many times. The Beach boys, too, should be noted because their harmonies were so amazing that they could almost make you cry listening to the songs.
The Beatles answered this by releasing the album they had been working on at the time, "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", considered by many people to be the greatest album of all time. It's ALSO a concept album, and when Brian Wilson heard it, he retired from the beach boys, LOL thinking he could never top the beatles. Anyways, the album is about this fictional band, Sgt. Pepper's lonely hearts club band, who are having this big concert, with everyone famous in attendance (the beatles, dressed up like the band on the cover, are standing beside themselves dressed up as the beatles, watching the lonely hearts club band)... also in attendance were famous movie stars, Jesus, Hitler, etc. The songs are all based around the theme of this big Concert the lonely hearts club band is putting on, and many of the tracks were amazing things that had never been done before at the time, samples, tape loops, special effects, overdubs, etc.
Another famous one is the Who's "Tommy", it's about a boy who's deaf, dumb, and blind, and is a pinball wizard. He throughout the album goes to the pinball championships, plays the pinball wizard (Elton John), and beats him, all blind. They even released a special "Tommy" Pinball machine that featured little plastic 'blinders' that covered the flippers in the last mode so you were playing blind like Tommy. There was also a famous movie made about it.
Frank Zappa released "Joe's Garage" about a future world where the police and government controlled everything.
Pink Floyd released a famous album called "The Wall" that was a concept album, and Neil Young last year released an album called "Greendale" which is a concept album about a small california town, and it's residents, and the problems they go through.
Really: Andre ain't doing nothing new. Hell, even Jimmi Hendrix did almost his exact thing he just did with "Electric Ladyland".
Kaidy:
^All great examples Trauma, there's a few there I still need to listen to.
BUT a concept album is very rare in hip hop. I mean, Andre is often called one of the best rappers out there, and he decides to do an album with practically no rap whatsoever, thats a pretty big move. Plus he makes a whole cd about his feelings and experiences with LOVE. Man, with the rest of hip hop including its audience trying so incredibly hard to be hard, that again is a big, and risky move.
Even if you don't like the music, I'm surprised you're not giving Andre any props for experimenting with his eclecticism and just doing something that nobody else in his genre would dream of doing right now.
PLANT:
I love the Andre album.....Its sick!
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