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Don Seer

tony blair announcement on libya
« on: December 19, 2003, 02:09:29 PM »
all over news here right now.. he's just about to make an announcement

rumours at the moment until it happens go...

it seems as thought libya are rumoured to have WMD.. and may be accepting some form of concessions/inspections or a dismantling program so they can get better trade going.. all vague.. good news tho
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Don Seer

Re:tony blair announcement on libya
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2003, 02:19:24 PM »
ok yeah.. they're admittiing they have WMD programs, but that since march this year they've been workign with Britain and the US to work towards getting rid of them, limiting weapons ranges etc etc...

basically they're fallin in line

(oh and iran and north korea got mentioned.. they're talkin about iran a lot)
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Re:tony blair announcement on libya
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2003, 05:23:36 PM »
This is some real bullshit...you need to get rid of WMD to get trade sanctions lifted.

I say every country in the world should boycott England/United States/Isreal as long as they have WMD.

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Trauma-san

Re:tony blair announcement on libya
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2003, 07:27:02 PM »
That's pretty good of Libya, definately surprising.  
 

Don Seer

Re:tony blair announcement on libya
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2003, 01:38:14 AM »
well it depends... up until yesterday the US still classed libya as a terrorist state.. however we've been working with them since the lockerbie crash.. its good news
 

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Re:tony blair announcement on libya
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2003, 05:06:43 AM »
Yeah, they not only admitted to being responsible for it, but offered (or agreed) to pay the families 10 mil. each.  People can say what they want, but this guy is playing hardball, I guess the U.S. and U.K. are throwing serious incentives at this guy, hoping others will follow.  
 

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Re:tony blair announcement on libya
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2003, 05:57:24 AM »
when i was waking up it was on the tv somink about they were quite advanced in a nuclear weapons program

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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Re:tony blair announcement on libya
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2003, 06:05:12 AM »
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Libya hailed for renouncing WMD
 
 
Gaddafi's government negotiated with the US and UK
The United States and Britain have warmly welcomed Libya's decision to abandon its programmes for developing weapons of mass destruction.
Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's statement followed nine months of secret negotiations with the West.

President George Bush said his decision set an example to other countries about how to build better relations with the US.

"Colonel Gaddafi's commitment, once fulfilled, will make our country more safe and our world more peaceful," he said.

"Leaders who abandon the pursuit of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them will find an open path to better relations with the US and other free nations."

UK Prime Minister Tony Blair called the announcement "an historic one and a courageous one".

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 It is an example to all nations that political differences can be resolved peacefully

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French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin described the deal as "a success for the entire international community".

UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, speaking on the BBC's Today programme, applauded what he called Colonel Gaddafi's "huge statesmanship and courage".

He said a team of experts which had paid visits to Libya in October and earlier this month had been given access to projects at more than 10 sites, including uranium enrichment.

They had discovered that:


Libya had not acquired a nuclear weapons capability, but was close to developing one.

It had significant quantities of chemical agent and bombs designed to be filled with chemical agent.

There were research centres with the potential to support biological weapons-related work.

Facilities existed where missile research development work had been conducted.
Libya said in its statement that it had agreed to the immediate international monitoring of its facilities.

"Libya has decided, with its own free will, to get rid of these substances, equipment and programmes and to be free from all internationally-banned weapons.

 
Tony Blair applauded the move
"It will take all these measures in a transparent way that could be proved, including accepting immediate international inspections," the statement said.

Libya has promised to restrict itself to missiles with a range that comply with the standards of the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) surveillance system.

This imposes a limit of 300 kilometres for missiles carrying a payload of 500 kilograms.

It has also promised to negotiate a new deal with the United Nation's nuclear agency and provide guarantees on biological weapons.

And it said it was ready to play its role in building a world free from all forms of terrorism,

"By taking this initiative, (Libya) wants all countries to follow its steps, starting with the Middle East, without any exception or double standards."

Under scrutiny

The US and its allies have long suspected that Libya had secret chemical and biological weapons programmes, but Tripoli repeatedly denied such allegations saying it only had facilities for pharmaceutical or agricultural research.

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Analysis: Gaddafi in from the cold  
In 1995, the country reopened its Rabta pharmaceutical plant at Qabilat az Zaribah which, before its 1990 closure, had produced up to 100 tons of chemical weapons, according to the US.

But chemical weapons production at Libya's underground Tarhuna facility is thought to have been suspended following intense international scrutiny.

Mr Blair gave details of the secret negotiations in his statement on Friday.

"Libya came to us in March following successful negotiations on Lockerbie to see if it could resolve its weapons of mass destruction issue in a similarly co-operative manner."

 
"It demonstrates that countries can abandon programmes voluntarily and peacefully," he said.

Mr Blair contrasted Libya's voluntary relinquishment of weapons of mass destruction with Iraq's defiance, which led to military action and the toppling of leader Saddam Hussein.

Nato expressed "great satisfaction" at the move. Spokesman Jamie Shea told the AFP news agency that it attached "great importance to all efforts to rein in proliferation" of such weapons.

BBC Jerusalem correspondent James Reynolds says Israel will be "surprised and relieved" by the announcement.

"Israel's main hope will be that the announcement puts additional pressure on Iran."

But he points out that Libya's announcement will cause unease among some in the Arab world.

"There has long been a widespread mistrust of American and British motives in the Middle East, and ordinary people often see close co-operation with Washington and London as capitulation."
 
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iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

Trauma-san

Re:tony blair announcement on libya
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2003, 09:45:55 PM »
They said after he was assured that the United States wasn't planning to invade Libya, he decided it was alright to disband his programs, LOL.