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THE "EMINEM" TRACK
Lincoln:
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--- Quote from: The Hoe Hopper on November 19, 2003, 05:35:44 AM ---lmao @ him "hoping there'll be no double standarts".. the double is right there, making a big deal out of a tape recorded as a kid making fun of his former girlfriend in a wrong way by making it a racist issue (but still it it was obviously out of fruststration, if Em was a racist he wouldn't even have had a black girlfriend) when nobody sais shit about shit like the quotes syxx_aka_engies posted
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To be honest i shouldnt take credit for the post, someone earlier posted a link to it, i just decided to use what was inside the link to show Lincoln the fantasy world he lives in
Fine if these guys were rappin about "we need jobs, we need education, we need less gang's, we need to get out the ghetto" thats better ment of black's right there
but to say "kill a white baby" is just as a bad if not worse than some of the Neo Nazi's & KKK members say. & from readin many of Lincolns posts, he is one of those guys who will never listen to any argument that doesnt support his opinion because he is stubborn. Heck its very similar to the way a KKK member will ignore evidence of African Americans not being these scum bags the KKK call them.
By the way, fuck all the haters who have minused my karma, i guess sometimes the truth hurts
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I agree with you to a point. However did you notice that the majority of those quotes come from artists I don't listen too? One of the Paris lines is a actually Spice 1 by the way. I listen to arguments but I'm sorry, I realize I don't understand fully but I've seen Blacks called racial slurs. I couldn't imagine what some of them have been through in their lives.
Diabolical:
--- Quote from: The Watcher on November 18, 2003, 06:44:31 PM ---its not too bad, although he said the N word which is what is gonna get him in the shit -- without that it would've been OK
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Necro says it all the time, hes white an no-one says shit
LyRiCaL_G:
lmao@how fast y'all try to protect eminem...............ever wondered why niggaz aint feelin most bwoys befo???.............its aiight, i wouldnt expect most of y'all to understand............but really he shouldnt be sayin the shit he said, like "i dont feel that nigga shit" or wateva, and about my black women..........but u know, its not that bad, but its funny how eminem kinda comes out gettin luv from this situation.................but fuck him for sayin that, i aint feelin that shit at all, specially since he admitted it......but u know, i aint pissed, jus dissapointed at it really.......fo hip hop........but benzino got his own agendaz to so u know, fuck both,lol
peace
SGV:
--- Quote from: teecee on November 18, 2003, 11:55:21 PM ---
Also, anyone ever hear of Everlasts version of Shook ones where he says NIGGA!!!!!!!!!! Wow, this eminem thing couldnt be something personal between the source and eminem, could it?
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Not black, but I can see how Everlast's saying "nigga" isn't taking personal, whereas Em's is. It's the context. First off, Everlast said nigga because that was the word in the song that he covering. Either way, it wasn't meant in an offensive matter. But, Everlast did get in some shit for saying nigga back in the day. Remember Quik and them dissed him for it. They got on him for using the word nigga, not even in a bad way, just using the word. The way it's used in these "tracks" is offensive to some. So, you can see his stance on this. Like I was telling Big Bad Ass, Em is doing black music, he should have that respect for the culture. I ain't black, so it don't matter to me.
--- Quote from: The Hoe Hopper on November 19, 2003, 05:35:44 AM ---lmao @ him "hoping there'll be no double standarts".. the double is right there, making a big deal out of a tape recorded as a kid making fun of his former girlfriend in a wrong way by making it a racist issue (but still it it was obviously out of fruststration, if Em was a racist he wouldn't even have had a black girlfriend) when nobody sais shit about shit like the quotes syxx_aka_engies posted
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Even slave owners fucked their black slaves, does that mean they're not racist? No. I mean, hell I don't think what he said was racist, but then again I'm not black. You're not black, hardly any of us here are black. I think to really understand the severity of the statements, you'd have to be black.
As far as the "white" statements. It's like this. Blacks and Latinos were/are discriminated against by whites, often. It was like that back in the day and it's still around now. White's were never enslaved. White's were never shunned from schools, diners etc. White's never lost their land to Latinos etc. There is a lot of pain in minorities that stems from whites. It sounds like a cop out, but it's the truth.
D.R.E.-Dogg:
--- Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on November 19, 2003, 02:13:00 PM ---lmao@how fast y'all try to protect eminem...............ever wondered why niggaz aint feelin most bwoys befo???.............its aiight, i wouldnt expect most of y'all to understand............but really he shouldnt be sayin the shit he said, like "i dont feel that nigga shit" or wateva, and about my black women..........but u know, its not that bad, but its funny how eminem kinda comes out gettin luv from this situation.................but fuck him for sayin that, i aint feelin that shit at all, specially since he admitted it......but u know, i aint pissed, jus dissapointed at it really.......fo hip hop........but benzino got his own agendaz to so u know, fuck both,lol
peace
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nobody said it wasn't wrong what he said of course it was and the statement itself was racist too but the reason for this is not Eminem not repsecting black people but the very situation he was in when he said that shit.. nobody said he should be sayin that shit and if he was generalizing shit like that nowadays I sure wouldn't listen to it but it's 10 years old, it resulted out of his frustration and Em knows it was wrong.. considering nearly all his homies are black it's obvious he respect blacks and it's not hard to believe that it's exactly like he said, him being a foolish angry dude at that very time
--- Quote from: SGV on November 19, 2003, 02:13:52 PM ---
Even slave owners fucked their black slaves, does that mean they're not racist? No. I mean, hell I don't think what he said was racist, but then again I'm not black. You're not black, hardly any of us here are black. I think to really understand the severity of the statements, you'd have to be black.
As far as the "white" statements. It's like this. Blacks and Latinos were/are discriminated against by whites, often. It was like that back in the day and it's still around now. White's were never enslaved. White's were never shunned from schools, diners etc. White's never lost their land to Latinos etc. There is a lot of pain in minorities that stems from whites. It sounds like a cop out, but it's the truth.
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well slave owners owned them, it's a different thing when u got a black girlfriend.. she sure wouldn't have become his girlfriend if he was generally disrespecting blacks and he wouldn't want to have a black girlfirend (not meaning he wouldn't fuck em like even slaveowners did) and treat her like u treat ur girlfriend if he was racist
and I am considering the discrimination against blacks n latinos, that's why I still listen to this music (surely not the menace clan but cube, paris etc) when I would not listen to a white guy with those kinda racist lyrics no matter how much skills he had.. but people are still overeacting, even when it's not meant to be disrespecting like white guys using nigga the way blacks do cuz they have a lot of black homies and they're used to it or shit
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