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UK Folx.. Bowling for Columbine on ch4 tonight
OpTiCaL:
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--- Quote from: Joachim on December 07, 2003, 08:17:35 AM ---I thought it was aight, the cartoon about the pilgrims in the middle of it was mad funny, however accurate the film is or not, he still has a valid point.
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yeah it was real good
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Woodrow:
MICHAEL MOORE IS A FRAUD - THE ULTIMATE LIST
(LAST UPDATED 11-28-03)
Complete Debunkings of BFC
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David Hardy, Former Lawyer for the Interior Department:
- http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
Dave Kopel, "National Review" magazine:
- http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel040403.asp
Richard Bushnell, Reporter, Editorialist, and owner of "Richwatch.com":
- http://www.bowlingfortruth.com (provides scene-by-scene expose')
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In-Depth Debunkings
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Ben Fritz, "Orange County Register": (Requires Free-Membership)
- http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=20211§ion=COMMENTARY&
year=2003&month=1& (change "§" to "&-s-e-c-t", minus the dashes)
Ben Fritz, "Spinsanity" organization (Watchdog Group for Political Rhetoric):
- http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20021119.html
Anthony Zoubek, "The Daily Vidette:
- http://www.dailyvidette.com/news/406627.html
- http://www.dailyvidette.com/news/413482.html
- http://www.dailyvidette.com/news/417763.html
Kay S. Hymowitz, "City Journal":
- http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_3_michael_moore.html
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Scene-Specific Debunkings
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What the Littleton LHM-plant REALLY does:
Michael W. Phillips, Jr.:
- http://www.geocities.com/evil_spoon/articles/bowlingforlockheed.htm
What Heston REALLY said in his "Hoya" interview:
Tim Sullivan, "The Hoya":
- http://www.thehoya.com/news/033100/news3.htm
What the "48 Hours" line REALLY said:
Archive of "48 Hours" page (via http://www.archive.org):
-http://web.archive.org/web/20001003020449/http://www.nrahq.org/administration/publications/tag/article2.shtml
Heston's ACTUAL speech:
David Hardy, Former Lawyer for the Interior-Department:
- http://www.hardylaw.net/Bowlingtranscript.html(side-by-side comparison)
Worldnetdaily.com:
- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=16127
What the "Willie Horton" ad(s) REALLY looked like:
American Museum of Moving Image:
- http://www.ammi.org/cgi-bin/video/years.cgi?1988,15,ss,, ("Revolving-Door Prison" ad)
- http://www.ammi.org/cgi-bin/video/years.cgi?1988,17,ss,, ("Willie Horton" ad)
The ACTUAL statistics:
FBI, "Nationmaster", "GunCite", and Bureau of Justice:
- http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/01cius.htm
- http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_wit_fir
- http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_wit_fir_cap
- http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvinco.html
- http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/hvfsdaft.txt
Heston is NOT a racist:
Henry Levy, "Jewish Post of New York": (Heston wins CORE's "MLK Jr." award)
- http://www.jewishpost.com/jp0703/jpbr0703a.htm
"Montgomery Citizens":
- http://www.mcsm.org/hestonMLK.html
"HestFest": (some of Heston's Civil-Rights achievements):
- http://marhew.tripod.com/hestfest/id3.html
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Brief/Partial Debunkings
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Andrew Sullivan, "Andrewsullivan.com" and "Sunday Times of London":
- http://www.andrewsullivan.com/main_article.php?artnum=20021208
John Fund, "The Wall Street Journal":
- http://www.opinionjournal.com/forms/printThis.html?id=110003233
Mike Pesca, "On the Media":
- http://www.wnyc.org/onthemedia/transcripts/transcripts_120602_more.html
Garance Franke-Ruta, "The American Prospect" (A Democratic Magazine):
- http://www.prospect.org/webfeatures/2002/11/franke-ruta-g-11-22.html
Tim Blair, "The Australian" (newspaper):
- http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,5763232,00.html (criticizes both Moore AND Moore's detractors)
Andy Patrizio, "IGN.com":
- http://dvd.ign.com/articles/430/430335p1.html?fromint=1
Joseph Farah, "Worldnetdaily.com":
- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32217
- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34367
Debbie Schlussel, Tech Central Station:
- http://www.techcentralstation.com/1051/defensewrapper.jsp?PID=1051-350&CID=1051-032503B
Matt Labash, "The Weekly Standard" magazine:
- http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/831ojymx.asp
Roger Ebert:
- http://www.suntimes.com/output/answ-man/sho-sunday-ebert23.html (responds to Moore)
- http://www.itsthecatsass.com/newboard/messages/37982.htm (answers Q's about BFC)
Brendan Nyhan, "Spinsanity":
- http://www.spinsanity.org/post.html?2003_08_31_archive.html#1062477905999081
Matthew Randazzo, IV, "Whateverdude.com":
- http://www.whatever-dude.com/posts/327.shtml
Chuck Muth, "OpinionEditorials.com":
- http://www.opinioneditorials.com/guestcontributors/muth_20030425.html
Edward Johnson-Ott, "All-Reviews.com" (movie-review site):
- http://www.all-reviews.com/videos-5/bowling-for-columbine-5.htm (gives the movie a POSITIVE review)
Peter Wicks, "The Observer":
- http://www.nd.edu/~observer/04032003/Viewpoint/0.html
Daniel Lyons, "Forbes" magazine:
- http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2002/1209/059.html?_requestid=2372&_requestid=6287
- http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2002/1209/059.html?_requestid=2372 (Requires $3 purchase)
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Debunkings by Pro-Gun Sites
(Keep in mind, pro-gun bias does not invalidate cold-hard facts.)
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James O. E. Norell, "NRA" (National Rifle Association) website:
- http://www.nrahq.org/publications/tag/feature6.asp
Larry Pratt, "gunowners.org":
- http://gunowners.org/opmooretb.htm
Nicki Fellenzer, "Armed Females of America":
- http://www.armedfemalesofamerica.com/takingaim/idolworship.htm
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Debunkings of BFC-Defenses
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"Wacko Attacko" by Michael Moore:
- http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/index.php
Debunkings (by David Hardy, Richard Bushnell, and Myself):
- http://www.hardylaw.net/replytomoore.html
- http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/wackoattacko.htm
- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0310793/board/thread/3494271?d=3501949#3501949
"A Defense of Michael Moore" by Erik Moller
- http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/8/12/171427/607
Debunking (by Myself):
- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0601619/board/nest/3465045
"The Truth About 'Truth About Bowling for Columbine'" by Tim Dudley
- http://www.bigsugar.wrestling-fan.com/truthaboutbowling.html
Debunking (by Myself):
- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0310793/board/nest/4338868
The often heard "If He's Lying, why hasn't he been sued?" argument:
(Note: He IS being sued.)
Debunking (by Myself):
- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0310793/board/thread/3555084?d=3638617#3638617
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Other BFC-Related Bits
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Moore invites victims' families to "preview screening", then charges admission:
Ann M. Ketcher, letter to "Rocky Mountain News":
- http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/opinion/article/0,1299,DRMN_38_2356875,00.html
Moore deceives Academy on purely technical grounds:
Joseph Farah, "Worldnetdaily.com":
- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34367
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Debunkings of Moore's non-BFC works/statements
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"Dude, Where's My Country?"
Bryan Keefer, "Spinsanity" Organization (Watchdog Group for Political Rhetoric):
- http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20031016.html
- http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20031016b.html
Richard Bushnell, Reporter, Editorialist, and owner of "Richwatch.com":
- http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/dude.htm
David Hardy, Former Lawyer for the Interior Department:
- http://www.mooreexposed.com/dwmc.html (page under construction
"Stupid White Men"
Ben Fritz, "Spinsanity" Organization:
- http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20020403.html
Ben Fritz, "Salon" Magazine and "Salon.com": (Requires Paid-Membership)
- http://www.salon.com/politics/col/spinsanity/2002/04/03/moore/index_np.html
David Hardy, Former Lawyer for the Interior Department:
- http://www.mooreexposed.com/swm.html
Fahrenheit 9/11
David Hardy, Former Lawyer for the Interior Department:
- http://www.mooreexposed.com/f911.html (page in preparation)
"Downsize This!"
"Update Ghost", Epinions.com:
- http://www.epinions.com/content_118225800836
The "USA Patriot Act"; What it REALLY does vs. What Moore SAYS it does:
Jonah Goldberg, "National Review Online":
- http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/moore/online/patriotact.htm
Debunking Moore's "Post-9/11 FBI-Flight" Tale
Barbara and David P. Mikkelson, "Snopes.com" (Urban-Legends reference page):
- http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flight.htm
Debunking one of Moore's letters to Bush
Brian Carnell, "Leftwatch.com":
- http://www.leftwatch.com/articles/2003/000004.html
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Other Stuff
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Anti-Moore Sites:
Various columnists and contributors:
- http://www.moorewatch.com (contains OVER 300 articles)
- http://www.mooreexposed.com
- http://www.moorelies.com
Moore (famous for filming people without consent) files a complaint against a man for filming MOORE without consent:
John Tierney, "The New York Times":
- http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/regional/061700ny-col-tierney.html
Opinion Telegraph (profile, no author):
- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/03/30/do3009.xml
"Michael Moore Enjoying Corporate High-Life"
Carl Limbacher and "Newsmax.com" staff:
- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2003/10/31/173730.shtml
"Michael & Me"; Moore refuses to be interviewed about his alleged lying:
Joseph Farah, Worldnetdaily.com:
- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34397
"Is Film-Maker Michael Moore a Bigot?"
Larry Elder, Author of "Showdown" and "The Ten Things You Can't Say in America":
- http://www.townhall.com/columnists/larryelder/le20030116.shtml
The origins of "The List" in "Stupid White Men":
Ben Fritz, "Spinsanity" organization (Watchdog Group for Political Rhetoric):
- http://www.spinsanity.org/post.html?2002_04_07_archive.html#75241524
Debunking various statements made by Moore:
Bryan Keefer, "Spinsanity":
- http://www.spinsanity.org/post.html?2002_06_23_archive.html#85204379
Some hypocritical statements made by Moore:
"Celebrity Hypocrites":
- http://www.celebrityhypocrites.com/mmoore.html
Politics and Hypocrisy in Hollywood:
Jan Golab, "Front Page Magazine":
- http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=6617
Moore attempts to hide a statement he made:
Paul Boutin, "Wired" magazine and "Wired.com":
- http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,56524,00.html
Interviews in which Moore evades criticism and double-talks:
Lou Dobbs, CNN's "Moneyline with Lou Dobbs":
- http://www.cnn.com/transcripts/0204/12/mlld.00.html
Buchanon and Press:
- http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/955443.asp?cp1=1
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From http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0310793/board/nest/2988799
Don Breezio:
^^^
micheal moore is a genius...its all you fuckin super-americans who think he's a fraud..."oh the man is telling all of america's problems lets attack him and try to make people believe that america has no problems" :o fuckin wack ass motherfuckers...there was absolutely no anti-american shit in there...there was anti-bullshit stuff...thats what the whole movie was...exposing the media for their bullshit. and it was a damn good movie.
Woodrow:
Lol
Ignore it if you want to, but he's just pulling the wool over your eyes. I just posted a HUGE amount of links debunking his movie from many different sources. America's not perfect, but I don't need some guy who weighs 400 pounds telling me about self control.
Have fun being a sheep.
[Stoned]Jesus H. Christ[Wheat]:
see after he had that oscar speech or whatever then the media started making fun of his weight and shit, that was just sad that they stooped that low, I mean so many americans are over weight and shit it's just retarted
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