cats wont understand hiphop fully until they understand its......

[LyRiCaL_G]

CULTURE.......

thats for real man, i noticed lately nuff niggaz post on this thinkin they know so much jus cuz they go on about 10 different message boards for however long and get educated from that, but u cant really say something thats true or related true until u know whats its culture is, until u go out and understand hip hop.........jus felt like sayin dat!

niggaz agree??

peace!

[Lord Funk]

Yeah man, I feel ya.

But there's an important difference between understanding and enjoying. You can do the second without the first

I don't expect everyone to have in-depth knowledge of all aspects of hip-hop culture, and I don't think it makes them any less of fans for it. If people are fans of mainstream rap they hear on the radio they shouldn't be ridiculed because they don't know 'bout Bambaata or Flash, or breaking or grafitti or anything else than happened, most probably, before they were born.

On the other hand, if you're going to do it properly, you gots to get some background, if only because it lets you put today's music and shit in perspective.

So I dunno... guess it depends on whether you want to hear or just listen. (I stole that that shit from White Men Can't Jump )

Interesting post man, props.

[Don Seer]

its true... but hopefully the will to want to understand more about it is a root to discovering those things

[Smoke]

Yeah man, I feel ya. But there's an important difference between understanding and enjoying. You can do the second without the first

[Diabolical]

I went to learned about the culture because it was the only music style that i "connect" to.

[Darksider]

But there's an important difference between understanding and enjoying. You can do the second without the first

[ZILLA THA GOODFELLA]

gyea i sorta agree..

btw, where u from lyrical g? u be tryin 2 hard mane......

[Juronimo]

On the other hand, if you're going to do it properly, you gots to get some background, if only because it lets you put today's music and shit in perspective.

I think that's what it comes down to right there. If you're doing music, then it's an absolute necessity. Even if you're just a fan, it helps to have that knowledge, that way you will enjoy it and appreciate it more.

[budsmokeronly]

understand the culture?  LMAO!  Half these damn rappers don't even know their own fuckin culture, much less the majority of morons listening to the music.

People ain't tryna understand hip hop, or understand country, or understand rock and roll.

90% of people listen to something cause it sounds good, they don't give a fuck about understanding it.  Shit my best days of listening to music was back when I was a rookie and really didn't understand shit.  Thats when I loved music the most.  Now I'm all way more into it, and listen to it deeper, and analyze it, and understand it all better.  Now I judge it way harder and shit.  I remember my first experience from Pac was the song I get around.  Shit back then I thought he was talkin about cruising around his city all the time and being a busy guy and shit.

Culture shit.  You think Ja Rule, 50 Cent, Nelly, Fabolous, Ludacris give a fuck about culture?  There is hardly any culture in rap at all anymore.  Its about gunz, sex, drugs, money, bangin, and seemingly most important - how dope you are/how big of an ego you got.  there ain't no culture in rap music anymore.

[Jome]

btw, where u from lyrical g? u be tryin 2 hard mane......

That's what I been wondering for over a year, I even asked..  

Most things tell me U.K., but "poor nigga in the streets" attitude makes me confused..

Speak up G!

[ZILLA THA GOODFELLA]

lmao...looks like we need to ring tha "gangsta t" alarm and expose yet another fake.....

[SGV]

I think due is from NY. That would explain it.

[LyRiCaL_G]

gyea i sorta agree..

btw, where u from lyrical g? u be tryin 2 hard mane......

lol pleez man, , i aint no clown or fake or wahevever, n i def dont try to hard, i speak how i was bought up, bottom line dawg,u may think i try to hard cuzz u aint from a place as ruff as me, thats what im defr sure about even tho i dont know or giv a fuck where u from, not cuz i dont like u or sum shit, i aint got problems with no cats on message boards, i jus dont need to know where u from to know if u a real nigga or a phony, not that im sayin u one though..... why come on a board trying hard man? that would be weak as fuck........

u wanna know about me? i dont need names countrys/cities to get respect, i got my

i come from jamaica niggaz, i aint ther no mo, but thats where i was raised for a long ass time n thats all im sayin...........

plus this topic gettin off topic, maybe cuz its slightly controversail to niggaz who knows, but like im sayin, until dudes dont understand culture, wont fully understand hiphop.......so when cats act like they know all shit never been on the streets or cant understand, it makes me laugh..........

by the props to pretty much everyone whos posted on this, i agree with most of ya..........i like the line off white bwoys cant fly to

peace

[An-Tony-O Montana]

understand the culture?  LMAO!  Half these damn rappers don't even know their own fuckin culture, much less the majority of morons listening to the music.

People ain't tryna understand hip hop, or understand country, or understand rock and roll.

90% of people listen to something cause it sounds good, they don't give a fuck about understanding it.  Shit my best days of listening to music was back when I was a rookie and really didn't understand shit.  Thats when I loved music the most.  Now I'm all way more into it, and listen to it deeper, and analyze it, and understand it all better.  Now I judge it way harder and shit.  I remember my first experience from Pac was the song I get around.  Shit back then I thought he was talkin about cruising around his city all the time and being a busy guy and shit.

Culture shit.  You think Ja Rule, 50 Cent, Nelly, Fabolous, Ludacris give a fuck about culture?  There is hardly any culture in rap at all anymore.  Its about gunz, sex, drugs, money, bangin, and seemingly most important - how dope you are/how big of an ego you got.  there ain't no culture in rap music anymore.

^real talk... i remember when there was a time when i was like 12 i didn't know shit about hiphop... i just listened 2 the shit cuz i liked the sound of it... now i'm more in depth with it and it forces me 2 judge that shit harder... back in the day i'd listen 2 anything and enjoy it now a days it takes alot 2 plz me... but this is a good thread... i think cats should no more about the essence of hiphop... where it originated and what it really means and it ain't about shootin muthafuckas up and sellin' drugs and shit... i feel u thou becuz i feel sorry for the youth gettin' in2 rap right now and they can't aprecite a real hiphop album like some old Nasty Nas shit or Pete Rock & CL Smooth... The kids don't know shit these days, all they know is if it's on Mtv or if they hear it on the radio it must be hott and the media tricks there feeble minds into believin' the shit is really dope when it's garbage... that's how i know i matured alot becuz the media can't play me nomore... i'm my own person and i can decypher the tight shit fromt the wack ass garbage that is plaugin' all these kids minds... You realize how bad a state hiphop is in right now... i ain't talkin' just on the business level where every1's tryna fuck u but on a music level too... the underground got lots of heat, lots of hungry mc's... comercially rap music has turned in2 more like hip pop... shit is corny, no originality it's just the same shit, talkin' bout cars, stuntin', how many bitches u fucked, how many ppl u killed how much drugs u dealt... blah blah blah... come up wit some original shit... U realize that 50 Cent killed Rakim's buzz!!! Rakim a pioneer in the game got put on the shelf for 50 Cents wack ass!!! What is wrong with the world? and wtf is up wit the god anyway??? Is his album or droppin' or what???

~1~

[pappy]

I think due is from NY. That would explain it.

an what the fuck does being from ny gotta do wit anything