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Saddam captured?
7even:
--- Quote from: .:ImC:. on December 16, 2003, 06:45:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on December 16, 2003, 05:30:25 AM ---First: If you are not american it makes barely a difference to me, I dont hate americans I hate american politics and I disagree wit anybody who likes their politics.
Second: I meant the USA provoked the situation, somethin like 9/11 had to happen. Im not sayin it was justified, but you had to reckon of a retaliation from the Arab World. Besides, it was a big advantage for the USA that the WTC was destoryed. For instance, the could invade Afghanistan, Iraq and many more (in future). Which would have been impossible witout 9/11. that these wars are a huge favor for america, no doubt bout that.
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First: i know. I just wrote it cause you wrote "you" (like if i was American).
Second: You know Bin Laden is mad at Middle Eastern countries more than the U.S.A., you know it, right? Or you are so misinformed? You know Bin Laden is just a terrorist and not a martyr, right? You know it? You know his organization killed jews in Turkey, and civils both in USA than in Bali and other countries all over the world, right? You know he bombed Red Cross, Italian police (with Iraqi citizen crying with/for us) and O.N.U., right? You know Germany is the n.1 (or 2) creditor of the world WITH FRANCE of Iraq/Saddam, right? You know all those things, right?
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but I think you also know you cant take the holy land of muslims etc witout being ready for ANY kind of retaliation.
America got it commin.
It's their foolish pride. yea, America's foolish pride. It's the origin of all this genocide.
smerlus:
what i don't get is....people believe in religions and shit....so in that case that land belongs to the jewish before the arabs so it's thier land...
Smoke:
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on December 16, 2003, 09:55:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:ImC:. on December 16, 2003, 06:45:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on December 16, 2003, 05:30:25 AM ---First: If you are not american it makes barely a difference to me, I dont hate americans I hate american politics and I disagree wit anybody who likes their politics.
Second: I meant the USA provoked the situation, somethin like 9/11 had to happen. Im not sayin it was justified, but you had to reckon of a retaliation from the Arab World. Besides, it was a big advantage for the USA that the WTC was destoryed. For instance, the could invade Afghanistan, Iraq and many more (in future). Which would have been impossible witout 9/11. that these wars are a huge favor for america, no doubt bout that.
--- End quote ---
First: i know. I just wrote it cause you wrote "you" (like if i was American).
Second: You know Bin Laden is mad at Middle Eastern countries more than the U.S.A., you know it, right? Or you are so misinformed? You know Bin Laden is just a terrorist and not a martyr, right? You know it? You know his organization killed jews in Turkey, and civils both in USA than in Bali and other countries all over the world, right? You know he bombed Red Cross, Italian police (with Iraqi citizen crying with/for us) and O.N.U., right? You know Germany is the n.1 (or 2) creditor of the world WITH FRANCE of Iraq/Saddam, right? You know all those things, right?
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but I think you also know you cant take the holy land of muslims etc witout being ready for ANY kind of retaliation.
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Retaliation? Man that's where you are wrong!!! RETALIATION BY WHO???
Common people in Iraq aint retaliating against US soldiers. They happy as fuck Saddam aint there no more. Or you talked about Bin Laden? Cause, like i wrote, he is mad as fuck against moderate muslim nations too. More than he is against USA. So who is retaliating against who? Bin Laden against USA? Naaaaaaaaa. Iraqi against USA? Naaaaaaaa. Man it's terrorism, not a war. TERRORISM. They're retaliating against Red Cross, ONU and Italian Police too? They are retaliating against civils in Iraq too? They are retaliating against Jews in Turkey too? Or youngs in Bali? Or Saudi Arabia?
That's where you wrong, man! It's terrorism. Not retaliation.
bez:
Great day for the world.
ITW [the irish boy]:
If you ask me, and you all know I was against the war, I think this was a GREAT day for the world. So what if he was helpless, he still is a mass murderer and should be tried as such. Whether or not you like bush, i think it is importantant that saddam be brought to justice. The only problem I have is how he will be tried. Should he be tried by the International Criminal Court? I dont think so, as america refuses to let its own citizens be tried by it, so why the double standard? Or the war crimes tribunal? the iraqis? or the americans?
Maybe looking at a smaller scale would help. If a murderer was caught, who would try him? The victims family (iraq)? No, to much emotion for a fair trial. The arresting officer (america)? Too many other motives. I think the only fair option is the War Crimes Tribunal which has tried the likes of slobodon milosevic.
Anyway, its brilliant that he has been caught and at least something good came of the crazy war.
Just a side note ... did the video of saddam remind anybody of the video of american pow's, which recieved such angry reactions from the us government? Surely this too breaches the geneva convention (he is after all a human being too, and rules should apply to evryone)
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