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Affirmative Action Bake Sale!!!!!
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Trauma on December 16, 2003, 05:51:35 PM ---M Dogg, you're missing the point I'm trying to stab you with.
--- End quote ---
That is a great quote.
And I get what you are saying, but I am saying is that trying to prove your point, you are offending thousands of minorites at the same time. I understand where you are coming from, but you demeaning what minorites have worked for. You say AA has, but you political opposition to this bill, has made you blind to what minorities have done. Maybe Collen Powell is a product of AA, oh, maybe Rice, or even George P. Bush got into college 'cause his half Hispanic. I mean, this is what you are saying. I understand you having a disagreement with AA, you are an angry white male in you mid 20's, it's common. But at the same time, you are willing to downgrade what a lot of minorities have worked for, and say it's AA that downgrades them. In reality it's you that downgrades them, and uses an issue as an excuse to support your prejudges. I'm not going to say racism, because you don't seem like a racist, but you are quick to judge, so I'll say prejudge.
Trauma-san:
Again, you miss the point. I'm starting to doubt those SAT scores you threw around, because you can't follow a basic argument.
By holding a bake sale, you use affirmative action to price the products.
In your mind, that reflects negatively on the people holding the bakesale.
The POINT of the exercise, is to show that Affirmative Action ACTUALLY denegrates the minorities it hopes to help. You seem to have caught that, but somehow it's my fault. LOL. I think you have a responsibility problem, you can't properly place blame. The problem is in the policy, not in the bake sale. Now, since this is the 4th time I've explained it, I doubt you'll still understand it. I can always hope though, which is why I put forth the effort. Maybe if you'll put forth a little mental effort, we can meet on common ground.
M Dogg™:
I understand what ou are trying to say, but I am saying that though the bake sale is trying to reflect what AA is doing to minorities, it also is putting down minorities more. AA does not cheapen our work, it does not mean we are have special rights. AA was at one time done in colleges as a way of getting more minorities in college, since many intercity schools gave very poor education. This was thought as a way to make things right, by Richard Nixon no less. The actual solution would have been to make intercity school better, and improve on equal oppertunity for all people, but that would too hard, so AA was an easy answer. 30 years later, the backlash begins. Now though, many minorities are are getting into college by their own merit, not AA. California got rid of AA, and didn't see a decrease in minority college population, and actually a high rise in Asians going to college. AA is still around today, one because the biggest benefits are seen by women, and two, because it is seen as the counter to the legacy student. Many white students in college get bonus points because they had parents that went to college. Many minority students didn't. So AA makes it so that minorities can get the bonus points that many white students already gain. So maybe I should throw a bake sale too. All students who's parents attented St. Olaf before can get cookies for $.25, well others pay a dollar. Makes sense to me.
Paradox:
How much is a cake if I'm a white, child-molesting, motherfucking, mormon?
Woodrow:
If I got banned from somewhere, I'd never ever come back. It would be clear to me that I wasn't wanted. Some people just don't get it I guess. The ignorant are always good for a laugh.
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