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Is The USA Terriorists
smerlus:
--- Quote from: Paradox on December 17, 2003, 12:02:15 AM ---1. I'll break it down for you since you seem to have a very low intelligence level. We helped bring Saddam to power. We gave him weapons, which he used to kill his own people. We knew about it but didnt care because he gave us oil. He nationalized the oil fields and all of a sudden we tell people that he is a cruel leader. We want the oil so we use his cruelty as an excuse TO BOMB IRAQ KILLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS. <<Terrorism
2. Oil companies aren't the ones bombing the nation. The U.S. government is. So you claim that the oil companies are terrorists because according to you they are carrying out the bombings. Since they're not carrying out the attacks, whoever is, must be a terrorist. Thanks for proving to me that the U.S. government is carrying out terrorism. Also, the oil companies AID the government in killing. Just in the same way that we aided Saddam in killing others. In the latter, Saddam was the EVIL one. So in the same equation with the oil company and the government, the government would be the EVIL.
3. The country's leaders didn't appoint him. I would have to get into great detail to explain to you what went on, and why it did, but even then you wouldn't be able to grasp the idea. Point short, Karzai was placed in power by the U.S. Even now, with the new "election", the U.S. says "Karzai must remain in power for the benefit of Afghanistan". I'm not disagreeing with that or agreeing. However, the point here is that you made the stupid statement about the U.S. not helping others come to power in other countries.
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you have to be the slowest person on this board....
i'm gonna type slow cause i know you don't read and comprehend too good...
1) HOW THE FUCK IS SADAAM KILLING HIS OWN PEOPLE AN ACT OF TERRORISM MADE BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT? WHAT KIND OF POLITICAL BONUS ARE WE GETTING WHEN THEY LIVE IN FEAR OF SADAAM AND THEY DO THE THINGS THAT SADAAM TELLS THEM TO DO? we gave him weapons... we didn't say...here you go..kill your own people and make them live in fear of the united states... you're a fucking dumbass
2) once again for the reading impared...these oils companies that make the world spin and have secret coucil meetings on how to rule the world by thier pawn pieces called "leaders of nations" are making trades with every country....i'll say that a few more times EVERY COUNTRY, EVERY COUNTRY, EVERY COUNTRY....so if they are funding one terrorist country...that makes themselves terrorists (just like if i funded a bank heist i'd be an accomplice to the bank robber) in turn every country that deals with them are terrorists because they are being supplied by them.....so they way you have your point....every country is run by terrorists since oil companies control all the leaders
BUT since these oil companies are giving thier money FREELY to these political leaders....how is that terrorism? because they are not being forced by acts of violence to give that money to them.....
3) afghan likes the leader, he is patriotic, he will be fair to the people in afghanistan, he isn't the head of one of these "world conspirating" oil companies...and once again afghan isn't living in fear and wasn't violently forced to except him as a leader, so quit your bitching...stop typing and dive your dick hand a rest.....with all that foolish nonsense you've typed, you have not proved that america is a terrorist country....i'll start a thread on something you can actually win like "why is the sky always checkered in flouresant colors"....then maybe you can prove me wrong
Paradox:
--- Quote from: smerlus on December 17, 2003, 12:19:17 AM ---i'm gonna type slow cause i know you don't read and comprehend too good...
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1. You missed the whole point of my argument. I didn't say the U.S. was terrorist because it supported Saddam; it's terrorist because of what it did to Iraq. Gulf War my friend.
2. There's a difference when the president's friends are involved. I didn't say oil companies are terrorists, you did. I said the U.S. government was for bombing innocent civilians FOR the oil companies.
3. Did you read the part where I said that I don't agree or disagree with him being a good leader. Whatever is best for the Afghan people living in Afghanistan, and if he is it, then let him be. However, the U.S. helped bring him to power. That is the only point I tried and have proven. By the way, HE WORKED FOR UNOCAL. THE SAME COMPANY IN CHARGE OF THAT PIPELINE BEING RUN DOWN AFGHANISTAN.
You said you were gonna type slow. How does the speed at which you type change anything. You know all the letters still are the same distance apart, and you typing slow doesn't mean the words show up slower on my computer. Talk about being slow in the head. It's ok, we all have our blonde moments. Thanks for the good laugh. Pretty ironic.
smerlus:
--- Quote from: Paradox on December 17, 2003, 12:31:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: smerlus on December 17, 2003, 12:19:17 AM ---i'm gonna type slow cause i know you don't read and comprehend too good...
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1. You missed the whole point of my argument. I didn't say the U.S. was terrorist because it supported Saddam; it's terrorist because of what it did to Iraq. Gulf War my friend.
2. There's a difference when the president's friends are involved. I didn't say oil companies are terrorists, you did. I said the U.S. government was for bombing innocent civilians FOR the oil companies.
3. Did you read the part where I said that I don't agree or disagree with him being a good leader. Whatever is best for the Afghan people living in Afghanistan, and if he is it, then let him be. However, the U.S. helped bring him to power. That is the only point I tried and have proven. By the way, HE WORKED FOR UNOCAL. THE SAME COMPANY IN CHARGE OF THAT PIPELINE BEING RUN DOWN AFGHANISTAN.
You said you were gonna type slow. How does the speed at which you type change anything. You know all the letters still are the same distance apart, and you typing slow doesn't mean the words show up slower on my computer. Talk about being slow in the head. It's ok, we all have our blonde moments. Thanks for the good laugh. Pretty ironic.
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lol you think i meant that? it was a joke and i'm glad you're bright enough to get it...
1) we helped liberate kuwait in which iraq over run for no reason but to further his own pockets (and yes we did happen to further our own pockets too) still not terrorist act...
2) yes we may just be fighting for oil but we're not influencing these companies politically or are we using fear to get these companies on our side
3) you agree this one doesn't mean america is terrorist either so we don't have to argue anymore on this fact...
i'm glad this debate got more civilized and quit with the name calling, but anyone has yet to prove this is a terrorist act
Paradox:
1. Do you know anything about what happened with Kuwait? OPEC agreed on a certain price that oil would be sold for. Under American pressure Kuwait lowered its price to the U.S. Saddam got angry because his country needed the money due to the war with Iran he just finished fighting. He invaded Kuwait, YES. But, the U.S. stated before he did , that the U.S. would not intervene. It was a trap. We used that as an excuse to not only invade Iraq, but also establish bases in Saudi Arabia because we convinced the Saudis that Saddam was planning to attack them next and told them he had soldiers lined up at the border (that was a complete lie because satellite photos proved there weren't, but thats another story) When we attacked Iraq, we killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. We didn't just carefully bomb military facilities, we bombed entire towns. How is that not terrorism? If killing 4000 innocents with a plane crashing into a tower is terrorism, then clearly carpet bombing entire cities is also. I could also get into what happened in Vietnam to prove that U.S. carried out terrorist acts. Agent Orange? In fact, the U.S. terrorist acts go way back to colonial times. The U.S. used the FIRST biologic warfare (blankets infested with diseases to kill Indians). TERRORISM.
2. No, the government isn't influencing the oil companies. It's actually the other way around. Let me create an analogy. If someone gives you money to kill another person, and you do it. Who committed the crime... you or the person giving you the money?
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