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ONE LITTLE SIMPLE QUESTION (about France, Germany, Russia)

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7even:
to sum up I just wanted to say Germany / France get treated like the biggest cowards and whatsoever by Americans and others. But noone comes up wit shit like: "Fuck Italy, them praying to their Allah Saddam!" lol... "Fuck those Cowards from Italy.." blabla.. so Germany payed their dues by not gettin in the war directly. If they'd do some Red Cross shit, American newspapers would write: "Hitlers children collaboratin wit the evil evil Iraqs" .. I hope you got the idea now

Smoke:
No man, i didnt write you are the biggest cowards. I'm saying that who's saying USA is terrorists and France/Germany is for peace is HYPOCRITE. Cause France/Germany are only doing their interests, just like USA. You aint pro-peace, cause there's no peace if you dont get a bullet. There's no peace if you dont die. There's no peace if you aint there (even if you say FUCK BUSH). That's what i mean. It's funny how some people from Germany/France cant just think with their mind, and cant just see that what they did is not something for the peace, but AGAINST ONU, against European Union, and, expecially now, against Iraqi. Go there if you wanna help them. Dont kill Iraqi, we didnt, and we aint doing it. Just share the love, the support, take a bullet for them, die for them, help them. Or just dont talk shit.

ONU is totally bullshit, man. They runned away from Iraq (rofl), International Red Cross went away (double-rofl), and this veto shit is hypocrite. It's 2003 now, we aint in the WWII no more! Itay or Somalia has to count at least like France. Or UK. Or USA. Only like that ONU can be an organization for the interests of everybody, and not only by the "fab 5" Nations, the founding fathers.

France used his "veto" to stop a war against Iraq. Why? Cause they had interests to stop it (fuck peace, this argumentation is good for children or politics). That's WACK! Fuck the veto shit! It divided ONU/Europe in 2, it fucked up ONU (who didnt do shit), it forced USA to act alone, against ONU. Now ONU is dead. Thanks to "veto"s.

That's wassup! I aint mad at Germany or France. I just dont accept people from them thinking they are pro-peace, and nations who are there like Italy "terrorists". And i dont accept them saying they care about Iraqi's, cause they only care about Iraqi's Oil, being their N.1 CREDITORS in the World.

Let's say the truth. I dont want France/Germany to go to Iraq. Do whatever you want. But be true with yourself and with the other nations.

"We" (italians, polish, soldiers from denmark, etc..) who are there are not "puppets" of Bush, like somebody said (that's straight disrespectful), we are there TO DO SOMETHING. Maybe we talk less, but we do more.

Peace.

Trauma-san:
Anybody who does a little research into the relationships & motives behind the war, and the oposition to the war, can learn a whole lot about the countries involved, that's all I have to say about it.  

America gets acused of being after the oil, but in reality, Germany & France by almost ALL of their oil from Saddam, whereas the United States wasn't getting ANY oil from Iraq.  Most of our oil comes from central & South America, NOT the middle east.  So who's after the oil?

The United Nations had an 'oil for food' program they struck up with Saddam.  They were getting paid a percentage of every barrel sold, making over 2 billion dollars a year, from Saddam, under U.N. restrictions.  SURPRISE, SURPRISE! When Saddam SHITS on them 17 times, and ignores 17 resolutions, the United Nations, Germany, and France don't want to do anything about it.... when they're the 3 with interests in Sanctioned Iraq!

Does nobody else find this funny? I find it funny that apparently an italian is the only one educated about it.  


How can the U.S. be involved for Oil, when Germany & France were LIVING off of Saddam's oil, and the U.N. was paying a majority of it's overhead off of money they were making off of the "oil for food" sanctions?

Smoke:
I didnt talk about the 'oil for food' thing cause i'm just disgusted. Ask Iraqi in Nassiriya if they've ever seen food from Saddam. NEVER. But still... it wasnt terrorism to get oil from Saddam AGAINST Iraqi (I MEAN WITH IRAQI DYING BECAUSE OF THAT).

THAT'S THE PERFECT DEFINITION OF TERRORISM, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MOMENT.

Something bad, to get something back. Exactly.

Trauma-san:
^ Yeah, Saddam spent the 'food' money on royal helicopters and palaces.

For those that don't know, Saddam was allowed to sell oil by the United Nations, for a fee, to them, for the past 12 years.  He was only supposed to use the money for food, but he didn't spend a fucking dime on Iraq, he spent it on his own splendor.  While Iraqis live in mudholes, he had billions of dollars in American Cash just SITTING in Barns and shit.  

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