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Hip Hop
Don Breezio:
--- Quote from: Trauma on December 26, 2003, 09:41:49 PM ---hiphop is generally negative, that's why it's dying a slow painful death. If hiphop were more positive (like every other music genre that has survived since classical periods on) then it would grow and last. Even the blues had hope in it, Hiphop generally is insulting, and degrading to all kinds of shit. It'll never last, 20 years from now, people will look @ hiphop like we look at Disco and alternative music. Dead.
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thats what they said when hip hop first started out. i dont see it dying i just see it becoming a little more commericalized. and alternative music is not dead.
js83:
--- Quote from: Trauma on December 26, 2003, 09:41:49 PM ---hiphop is generally negative, that's why it's dying a slow painful death. If hiphop were more positive (like every other music genre that has survived since classical periods on) then it would grow and last. Even the blues had hope in it, Hiphop generally is insulting, and degrading to all kinds of shit. It'll never last, 20 years from now, people will look @ hiphop like we look at Disco and alternative music. Dead.
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i doubt that will happen..hiphop is growing bigger every year...
Trauma-san:
I guess... but if it's all shit, who cares how big it is. The quality of an album today is about half the quality of an album 4 years ago. Compare your average album today with something that came out in 93. It isn't even close. It's dying.
Don Breezio:
--- Quote from: Trauma on December 26, 2003, 09:57:15 PM ---I guess... but if it's all shit, who cares how big it is. The quality of an album today is about half the quality of an album 4 years ago. Compare your average album today with something that came out in 93. It isn't even close. It's dying.
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its just growing...hip hop has to change and its hard for all of the people who have been listening to it for years to accept that. i just realized the fact that hip hop really is no different than it was 10 years ago. lyrics are a bit more complex (or atleast some) but thats about it. i do agree however though that back then you could buy an album without listening to it and know its good. now you buy an album and hope for atleast 5 good tracks knowing there will be atleast 5 wack tracks.
N-Sane Brain:
"Real rap" isn't dyin', you just have to search for it carefully. This year for example had releases like "The Book Of Shabazz", which is definitely that real rap that everyone's askin' for.
The only thing that changed is (as you already said in your first post) that HipHop became more commercial. Back in the days the charts were dominated by Rock or whatever, but now you see people like Eminem, 50 Cent, Ludacris, Jay-Z, Busta Rhymes, etc. on the top of the charts. The most-sellin' albums in the industry are rap-albums ("Get Rich Or Die Tryin'", "The Eminem Show", etc.), and so you can see that HipHop is definitely as big as never before.
But you can still find that real rap, that can mess with the rap from back in the days, you just have to look for it in the underground. Probably these underground-artists deserve more hype, but that's a problem that'll never be solved, because rap-fans like us are definitely the minority of the music-listeners, that's why the "commercial shit" will ever be bigger.
But the underground-rap will never die though. I don't think so...
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