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Buddhist Monk burns himself to death at a Charlotte temple

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white Boy:

--- Quote from: -Vorte[ x ]- on December 30, 2003, 06:31:24 PM ---There are six perfections in Buddhist philosphy, they are : giving, morality, vigor, patience, wisdom and meditation.  Amongst them, giving ranks the topmost.  Now ofcourse, there are many forms of giving, but what is more virtuous than giving one's life for the saving of others? Besides, what else can a monk give other than his own life?

-V[ x ]


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he can give some good advice? hes not giving his life, hes killing him self for a casue, but its not gonna do SHIT, cause nobody cares

-Vorte[ x ]-:
It's quite like Gandhi's fast actually, once he nearly fasted to death after failed attempts to settle disputes between the Muslims and Hindus, as a result the two religions started to live in peace again.  

".....what should a nonviolent person do when he finds his friends, relations or countrymen refuse to give up an immoral way of life, and all arguments prove futile to evoke any response? An ahimsa-ite must not use a semblance of force to convert the wrong-doer. He even eschews the use of any harsh language. The first step is gentle and affectionate persuasion. When it fails to produce any salutary effect, voluntarily he invites suffering in his own body to open the eyes of the person who is determined to see no light." -Gandhi

To many, its quite a hard concept to understand.

-V[ x ]

Eidolon_Ravi:

--- Quote from: -Vorte[ x ]- on December 30, 2003, 06:31:24 PM ---There are six perfections in Buddhist philosphy, they are : giving, morality, vigor, patience, wisdom and meditation.  Amongst them, giving ranks the topmost.  Now ofcourse, there are many forms of giving, but what is more virtuous than giving one's life for the saving of others? Besides, what else can a monk give other than his own life?

-V[ x ]

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When a man is  really keen to realize an objective in his life he wouldn't just throw it away... He does it becous he wants to run away from the objective as he feels that he's too weak to achieve it.. and he commits suicide.

 I can name thousands who have struggld all their life against the dogmatic and inflexible society ( u can finds many names in the Medieval Europe or during hte renaissance).. well they all could have just killed themselves.. But a inner energy of self righteousness driove them on.. and even if they died.. it was becoz they were lynched by the mob.. becoz their teachings became too much for the mob...

 and here u r, misinterpretting Gandhi's plilosophy..
 
What he menat by self sacrifice was to push one self to the limit of one's capacity to achieve one's dreams .. and here also u see a self interest...

He never advises u to run away from it. by embracing death..
 
 Death should be the END and  NOT the MEANS

-Vorte[ x ]-:
There is obviously a difference in perspective.  A real Buddhist is not afraid of dying(but living), for it is only another journey, there are strong religious aspects of it which I don't wish to get into detail right now .  Causing any type of harm to other lives in any way violates Buddhist beliefs, it contributes nothing to promote peace.  
Ofcourse, I might have misinterpreted what Gandhi said; I felt that it coincides with the Buddhist belief, espically the following part: "The first step is gentle and affectionate persuasion. When it fails to produce any salutary effect, voluntarily he invites suffering in his own body to open the eyes of the person who is determined to see no light."

-V[ x ]

Trauma-san:
Eidolon, you shouldn't argue with people about their religion, every religion relies on faith and therefore can't be proven or argued.

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