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Explain this...
King Tech Quadafi:
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First off, My mind is "Right" no need to insult me to make your argument look stronger.
This is the thing I don't understand:
You claim that Muslims are opressed. Sure thing they arent the only peoples across the world that are opressed, but ok. I don't agrue with you on that one.
How has Osama bin laden been opressed? He grew up in a very rich family and had all the luxeries of the western world he now hates so much. The 17 or 18 Hijackers from Saudi Arabia were also from families that were very well off. They were not "Opressed" like you claim. The problem here is not the Opression, It's hate for a group of people. Please dont bring religion into this either, because it's not a religious issue, It's a hate issue. Bin Laden trys to mask it as a religious issue. It's not.
I hate to break it to you, but the KKK is a hate group. Al Qaeda is a hate group. They both pratice hate. This is not a baseless comparrison. It's the truth.
How am I denying "Muslims the same human feelings you personally experience"
When you group Osama Bin Laden with Muslims everywhere telling me it's not a hate group, It's a disservice to Muslims everywhere.
Finaly, please don't make broad generalizations about Americans. You never hear me talking about people from afghanistan eating sticks and stones do you?
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Broad generilizations about Americans?
I been to the fuckin States, I know Americans , I was there for a couple of months with my cuzins. I know Americans
You been to Afghanistan? Iraq? Iran? Kuwait?
And u talkin about Osama and the Saudi Hijackers.....
U makin individual distinctions, which aint right man.
U sayin Osama is rich how is he oppressed? u cant makle individual distinctions,
example, i am not oppressed , but every time i see the news and watch a Palestinian get killed, i feel like grabbing an AK and going down there. The Muslim world is a community, we are a brotherhood, A rich Pakistani, a middle class Indonesian, and a white Muslim american convert. They all feel the same pain witnessing horrors being committed against the Muslims.
Did every body in the US army that invaded Afghanistan lose someone on Sept 11.?
Trauma-san:
^^^ You're trying to act like the civilians lost in this, in 1 HOUR, are nothing since palestinians die every day. Lets just tell it like it is. The number of palestinians killed roughly equals the number killed in Isreal recently, and then throw on top of it all the people Bin Ladin killed, and we're killin each other needlessly. I had friends in New York at the time this went down, thankfully nobody was hurt. But 3000 different families lost dads, moms, kids, etc. In 1 hour. We have the right to be just a 'LITTLE' bit mad.
You make individual distinctions too! You go after George Bush, and blame it all on him, but we can't blame it all on Bin Ladin? No Sane minded american (Read, Me) wants to kill Afgani's! We want to get revenge on Al Queada. If you support them at all, your mind is tripped up. They're a hate group, EXACTLY like the KKK. The KKK killed in the name of god. Al Queada kills in the name of God. Same thing. True christians don't consider KKK members christians, but yet Muslims all over the place are embracing the Al Queada as their 'brothers' that's just messed up. 2 wrongs don't make a right, never have, never will. Turn the other cheek.
King Tech Quadafi:
u dont seem to understand teh distinctions Englewood is making
he's sayin Osama was rich so how is he oppressed
George Bush didnt lose anybody in 9/11 so why is he going after Taliban
Is Osama supported by the Majority of Muslims? no!
but the disenfranchised people who are sick of being pushed around are rallying around him.
listen
Iraq
Chechnya
Palestine
Kashmir
every where around the world Muslims are being attacked.
You cant understand that feelin of uselessnesss, that we cant do nothing as a people, so Bin Laden steps up and kills Americans, that brings something out of the people, na mean?
anyways forget it, these arguments will go one forever, cuz we from different places wit different beliefs.
peace
infinite59:
--- Quote ---^^^ You're trying to act like the civilians lost in this, in 1 HOUR, are nothing since palestinians die every day. Lets just tell it like it is. The number of palestinians killed roughly equals the number killed in Isreal recently, and then throw on top of it all the people Bin Ladin killed, and we're killin each other needlessly. I had friends in New York at the time this went down, thankfully nobody was hurt. But 3000 different families lost dads, moms, kids, etc. In 1 hour. We have the right to be just a 'LITTLE' bit mad.
You make individual distinctions too! You go after George Bush, and blame it all on him, but we can't blame it all on Bin Ladin? No Sane minded american (Read, Me) wants to kill Afgani's! We want to get revenge on Al Queada. If you support them at all, your mind is tripped up. They're a hate group, EXACTLY like the KKK. The KKK killed in the name of god. Al Queada kills in the name of God. Same thing. True christians don't consider KKK members christians, but yet Muslims all over the place are embracing the Al Queada as their 'brothers' that's just messed up. 2 wrongs don't make a right, never have, never will. Turn the other cheek.
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The KKK was hating because of race. The Taliban was hating because of injustices done to there people. Two totally different situations.
Woodrow:
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Broad generilizations about Americans?
I been to the fuckin States, I know Americans , I was there for a couple of months with my cuzins. I know Americans
You been to Afghanistan? Iraq? Iran? Kuwait?
And u talkin about Osama and the Saudi Hijackers.....
U makin individual distinctions, which aint right man.
U sayin Osama is rich how is he oppressed? u cant makle individual distinctions,
example, i am not oppressed , but every time i see the news and watch a Palestinian get killed, i feel like grabbing an AK and going down there. The Muslim world is a community, we are a brotherhood, A rich Pakistani, a middle class Indonesian, and a white Muslim american convert. They all feel the same pain witnessing horrors being committed against the Muslims.
Did every body in the US army that invaded Afghanistan lose someone on Sept 11.?
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So You've been to America for a couple of months, and you feel you know us well enough to pass judgment...
Perhpas you should "get ya mind right" because a couple of months is not long enough to know a persons culture.
How is it not right to make individual distinctions about Osama and the HiJackers? They don't represent Islam. They never will. They represent HATE. That's the distinction I make.
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