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Christians.... Explain this pride issue
infinite59:
This is no disrespect when I'm asking these questions. Trauma explained his understanding of the trinity magnificiently in my thread asking about the trinity. I'm not trying to poke wholes in your argument, but just clear up my frustrations.
My question is... In the trinity thread. Trauma makes it a point to say, "Notice God did not say he was proud of Jesus." And in school I remember this girl that was a strict Christian would always point it out if someone said they were proud of themselves or someone else.
Man, I'm proud of Muslims all the time, I'm proud of the prophet Muhammad, I'm proud of Tech, Doggy, all the Muslims at this board, I'm proud of the great things non-Muslims do as well. In the Qu'ran it goes into extensive detail about being humble, fasting, and praying, and keeping things in perspective with Allah first. And to not fall victim to SELFISH PRIDE.
Yet, to be proud of another, and proud of yourself for doing the right thing, I've never understood why that would be a sin in Christianity. How ya'll feel about the emphasis Christianity puts on this sin?
Jay ay Beee:
You will also find that I ripped apart Trauma's argument magnificently but oh well
Well, that's must be Trauma's part of Christianity, because I know Catholics (the biggest Christian movement) don't have a problem with pride.
So don't think that it applies for the whole of Christianity
infinite59:
--- Quote ---You will also find that I ripped apart Trauma's argument magnificently but oh well
Well, that's must be Trauma's part of Christianity, because I know Catholics (the biggest Christian movement) don't have a problem with pride.
So don't think that it applies for the whole of Christianity
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Word... I had just glanced over Trauma's and hadn't read the whole thing, it was a great argument all around, Trauma's was just more in line with the Islamic perspective.
Jay ay Beee:
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Word... I had just glanced over Trauma's and hadn't read the whole thing, it was a great argument all around, Trauma's was just more in line with the Islamic perspective.
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Coo
Trauma-san:
First, Jay, you didn't rip apart anyting. All you said was that their was 1 god, and the father, son, and holy ghost are seperate. I agree. Where is the 'trinity' in that? If you mean trinity to just refer to the three seperate beings, god, his son, and the holy ghost, than I agree, again.
Anyways, I think pride is a sin! Why? Because that's what the bible says. All through the bible, Pride is not 1nce mentioned in a positive light. Since we all fall short of perfection, anything we can do is nothing to be proud of, we should all be doing it anyways. It's really not a big deal, people mean the same thing when they say 'pleased', but I think it's interesting that God said "In Whom I am Well Pleased" instead of "In whom I am proud of".
First Epistle of John, Chapter 2 verse 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Job 40:12 - Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.
Psalms 138: 6 Though the LORD be high, yet hath he respect unto the lowly: but the proud he knoweth afar off.
Proverbs 16:5 Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.
All through the bible Pleased is used, and "proud" is listed as a sin. I think maybe the definitions have blurred over the years, though. I'm just playin' it safe, LOL.
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