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infinite59:
From a Muslim point of view.  I'll say this....

Everything in nature has a pattern.  Your belief that the sun will rise in the morning is a belief in a devine plan, and without that belief we would all be guessing.  Nature always runs it's course.  Islam, is believed to be the Religion of the Creator Allah, so it follows the laws of nature.  But acts such as destroying and disrespecting your fellow man, homosexuality, and other social poisons go against Allah's plan for us.  

Moreover, without evil, man could not know virtue.  This life is an illusion, to prepare us for the last day.  The world is forever destroying and rebiulding herself.  Allah leads astray who he pleaseth and guides who he pleaseth it's all in accordance to his Plan.

Is not the light seperate from the dark?  Does not the evil doer hold less light then the righteous man?

Don Seer:

--- Quote ---From a Muslim point of view.  I'll say this....
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ok me 'puts on non(not anti) muslim hat' i'll hit you from my perspective... being 'non-religious but righteous' (i've started my own one man 'religion')


--- Quote ---Everything in nature has a pattern.  Your belief that the sun will rise in the morning is a belief in a devine plan, and without that belief we would all be guessing.  Nature always runs it's course.
--- End quote ---


yup. the sun will rise because its nature is to do so.
its a side-effect because the sun is a big ball of flame that sits there while we spin around it. natural behaviour.


--- Quote --- Islam, is believed to be the Religion of the Creator Allah, so it follows the laws of nature.  But acts such as destroying and disrespecting your fellow man, homosexuality, and other social poisons go against Allah's plan for us.
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replace 'against Allah's plan for us'  'against the natural order'
of things.

we are just animals. our purpose is to procreate.

destroying + disprecting is just a mating ritual because in nature dominant males get the pootang.


--- Quote ---Moreover, without evil, man could not know virtue.  This life is an illusion, to prepare us for the last day.  The world is forever destroying and rebiulding herself.  Allah leads astray who he pleaseth and guides who he pleaseth it's all in accordance to his Plan.

Is not the light seperate from the dark?  Does not the evil doer hold less light then the righteous man?
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ohh the word righteous ;)
apart from the dogma. its a bill&ted thing... 'be good unto one another' oh and fuck off the haters. ;)

infinite59:

--- Quote ---

ok me 'puts on non(not anti) muslim hat' i'll hit you from my perspective... being 'non-religious but righteous' (i've started my own one man 'religion')


yup. the sun will rise because its nature is to do so.
its a side-effect because the sun is a big ball of flame that sits there while we spin around it. natural behaviour.


replace 'against Allah's plan for us'  'against the natural order'
of things.

we are just animals. our purpose is to procreate.

destroying + disprecting is just a mating ritual because in nature dominant males get the pootang.


ohh the word righteous ;)
apart from the dogma. its a bill&ted thing... 'be good unto one another' oh and fuck off the haters. ;)


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You lost me dogg.... did you just give the atheist version of everything I said?

Don Seer:
i hit it up from my perspective.

most those things arent unique to any specific faith, and are a part of what i consider 'common (sense) moral ground'.
i removed the 'dogma' of islam and hit it up in my words.
where things differ i explained why i thought so.

btw: see the thread 'what am i'.

you can ask questions about my 'new' righteous faith there ;)




infinite59:

--- Quote ---i hit it up from my perspective.

most those things arent unique to any specific faith, and are a part of what i consider 'common (sense) moral ground'.
i removed the 'dogma' of islam and hit it up in my words.
where things differ i explained why i thought so.

btw: see the thread 'what am i'.

you can ask questions about my 'new' righteous faith there ;)





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Islamic theology is based on common sense and there's a reason for everything in the religion.  Nothing is done just because, "God said so."  There is a plan.

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