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totally new and different nintendo handheld
smerlus:
--- Quote from: Trauma Wilson on January 21, 2004, 10:19:15 PM ---Back to the virtual boy: Ahead of it's time. LOL simple as that, that thing was cool as shit, yes, I did have one. I think the only game I had for it was Tennis, but still, lol. I couldn't fuckin' believe they made that system.
Lets not forget the only reason Sony is even IN the gaming market is because they built the playstation for Nintendo, as a CD player for the SNES. Nintendo rejected it, and they rolled it out repackaged as the PS1.
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i'll agree the IDEA was ahead of it's time and it took some balls to put that system out....but the times technology and the way they marketed it made it a flop from the start.....the bad press about the health issues didn't help much either
and so what if it took nintendo to get sony in the business? ....it's just another example of poor decisions by nintendo....they lost billions of dollars just on that mistake
again....Nintendo has a hard time marketing thier main console Gamecube to developers and to consumers... how are they going to convince both groups the need for another console?
Trauma-san:
^ You believe what you want to believe, you don't look up facts. Gamecube's having a hard time being marketed? It's the #2 selling system in the world, above the X-box. Their software sales are growing faster than Sony or Microsofts, and recent Gamecube games have been some of the best selling games out (Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Metroid Prime, Zelda the windwaker, F-Zero, etc. etc. etc.)... how are they having a hard time marketing to consumers? I don't see it.
also, since this is a portable device, look at the success of the Gameboy. They destroyed the competition, and put several companies out of business by making their hand-held systems obsolete, all with nintendo's gameboy having inferior quality! They put Sega's game gear out, Atari's lynx out, Sega's Nomad out of business, The Turbograffix Express, The Bandai Wonderswan, The Wonderswan color, the Neo Geo pocket, the Neo Geo pocket color, ... need I go on? LOL Bring on the PSP, and Nintendo will bring on the Nintendo DS.
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: smerlus on January 21, 2004, 10:30:18 PM ---
and so what if it took nintendo to get sony in the business? ....it's just another example of poor decisions by nintendo....they lost billions of dollars just on that mistake
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I'll give you a player pass and assume you're too young to realize, but the reason Nintendo passed on the PS1 was because it would have been a CD player for the SNES. Sega had just released a CD player for their genesis, which flopped HORRIBLY, and Nintendo wisely chose to develop a new system, the Ultra64, soon to become the N64, which was cartridge based. That's not a poor decision, that's called look at the competition. The PS1 became successful as a stand-alone, but as an attachment to the bottom of the SNES, it would have been doomed.
smerlus:
--- Quote from: Trauma Wilson on January 21, 2004, 10:46:22 PM ---^ You believe what you want to believe, you don't look up facts. Gamecube's having a hard time being marketed? It's the #2 selling system in the world, above the X-box. Their software sales are growing faster than Sony or Microsofts, and recent Gamecube games have been some of the best selling games out (Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Metroid Prime, Zelda the windwaker, F-Zero, etc. etc. etc.)... how are they having a hard time marketing to consumers? I don't see it.
also, since this is a portable device, look at the success of the Gameboy. They destroyed the competition, and put several companies out of business by making their hand-held systems obsolete, all with nintendo's gameboy having inferior quality! They put Sega's game gear out, Atari's lynx out, Sega's Nomad out of business, The Turbograffix Express, The Bandai Wonderswan, The Wonderswan color, the Neo Geo pocket, the Neo Geo pocket color, ... need I go on? LOL Bring on the PSP, and Nintendo will bring on the Nintendo DS.
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the only reason nintendo took number 2 is because of the price drop....now tell me, do you think it takes just $99 to market and produce the gamecube? if you do, you're wrong....for a fact, they are losing money on the gamecube....thier software does good of course....the gameboy advance does good....gamecube loses them money
and i didn't say anything about the gameboy advanced doing bad....
give me reasons why the gameboy advance does good and those will be the same reasons that this new thing wont
smerlus:
--- Quote from: Trauma Wilson on January 21, 2004, 10:54:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: smerlus on January 21, 2004, 10:30:18 PM ---
and so what if it took nintendo to get sony in the business? ....it's just another example of poor decisions by nintendo....they lost billions of dollars just on that mistake
--- End quote ---
I'll give you a player pass and assume you're too young to realize, but the reason Nintendo passed on the PS1 was because it would have been a CD player for the SNES. Sega had just released a CD player for their genesis, which flopped HORRIBLY, and Nintendo wisely chose to develop a new system, the Ultra64, soon to become the N64, which was cartridge based. That's not a poor decision, that's called look at the competition. The PS1 became successful as a stand-alone, but as an attachment to the bottom of the SNES, it would have been doomed.
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and once again trauma the all knowing, let me put you in your place as an ignorant person
June 1991 Treachery At The 11th Hour
In June of 1991, at the Chicago CES (Consumer Electronics Show), Sony officially announced the Play Station (space intentional). The Play Station would have a port to play Super Nintendo cartridges, as well as a CD-ROM drive that would play Sony Super Discs. The machine would be able to play videogames as well as other forms of interactive entertainment, as was considered important at the time.
Sony intended to draw on its family of companies, including Sony Music and Columbia Pictures, to develop software. Olaf Olafsson, then chief of Sony Electronic Publishing, was seen on the set of Hook, Steven Spielberg's new Peter Pan movie, presumably deciding how the movie could be worked into a game for the fledgling Play Station. In Fortune magazine, Olafsson was quoted as saying "The video-game business...will be much more interesting (than when it was cartridge based). By owning a studio, we can get involved right from the beginning, during the writing of the movie."
By this point, Nintendo had had just about all it could take. On top of the deal signed in 1988, Sony had also contributed the main audio chip to the cartridge-based Super NES. The Ken Kutaragi-designed chip was a key element to the system, but was designed in such a way as to make effective development possible only with Sony's expensive development tools. Sony had also retained all rights to the chip, which further exaserbated Nintendo.
The day after Sony announced its plans to begin work on the Play Station, Nintendo made an announcement of its own. Instead of confirming its alliance with Sony, as everyone expected, Nintendo announced it was working with Philips, Sony's longtime rivals, on the SNES CD-ROM drive. Sony was understandably furious.
Because of their contract-breaking actions, Nintendo not only faced legal repercussions from Sony, but could also experience a serious backlash from the Japanese business community. Nintendo had broken the unwritten law that a company shouldn't turn against a reigning Japanese company in favor of a foreign one.
However, Nintendo managed to escape without a penalty. Because of their mutual involvement, it would be in the best interests of both companies to maintain friendly relations. Sony, after all, was planning a port for SNES carts, and Nintendo was still using the Sony audio chip.
source: http://psx.ign.com/articles/060/060188p1.html?fromint=1
any other comments you want tomake while knowing only 1/2 the story?
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