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I TO DA GEEZY:

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But the fact is you can't just take land of another country and not expect them to fight to get it back.

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lol...there was no country there man, when Israel Was declared, there wasn't even an authonomy...they created it only later to get the jews out....what was here be4 is people from differend backgrounds and tribes that felt intimidated by all the jews who started to flow to this land, and united only later to CUT the tumer(=jews, as they saw it) out using political force and acseptance by seemingly un-involved sides, while also using terrorism as a weapon in paralile....to get to their cause.

HGHDSGJKDSV:
So your telling me that in 1948 when the state of Israel was decleared that the land it was made up of was part of no country prior to that. That that land was land was not taken fron other countrys by the Untied Nations and then given to the Jews to live on.

Woodrow:

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...And as for "saving American lives", the lives we were saving were our own soldiers lives. People who were supposed to be "giving their lives for the country". The people we killed by bombing, were civilians...

Im not anti-American at all. Although thats what u like to call anyone who brings attention to this countries problems, or mistakes. But you are so lost in yur own lil warped patriotism, that youre blind. America is a great country, as are many others. Id rather live here then anywhere else in the world. BUT, i dont for one second pretend this country hasnt done some fucked up thingz in its past...and continues to do sum fucked up things. U give off tha perception that u think America is perfect. Now THATS ignorance. Maybe u dont really feel that way, im just saying thats the image u portray on tha board. Youre probably a pretty educated dood homie, so i aint attackin u on that level. I respect that u backin up yur arguments with sum facts. But I just dont like that attitude that, America is better then everyone else shit. U feel me? Peace.


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1.) Just becasue these poeple singed up to give their lives, dosent mean all of them are going to die. Pretend that you are a father, who has 2 kids, both males, both in the army. They have just been sent off to the pacific to fight the Japanese. How would you feel if somebody could end the war, and in effect, save your Son's life?

2.) I'm VERY proud of my country and what It stands for. When you say: "i dont for one second pretend this country hasnt done some fucked up thingz in its past...and continues to do sum fucked up things." I agree with you. Have you turned a blind eye twards all the other countries in the world? Have you forgotten that Saddam Gassed his OWN citizens? Have you forgotten the atrocities that occur in Iran on a daily basis? Do you rememeber the Taliban? Im just saying, If you count all the bad things America has done, dont forget all the other shit others have done as well...

Ive noticed that its hard to see it when somebody does lots of good, but easy to see when they do bad.

It's like the puff daddy effect. When you are at the top, the people who hate you grow...  ;D

HGHDSGJKDSV:
Do you realize there are countrys other than America who don't treat their citizens bad and don't do bad shit, You are comparing America to some pretty bad countrys, Commpare it to England, France, Italy, Australia, New Zealand, Denmark, Austria, Sweeden not just the really fucked up ones and then see how good it looks.

HGHDSGJKDSV:
I love this country becasue it allows people like you to have your own flawed opinions. Try moving to Iran and talking bad about their government. See how they like that

Your arogant, You think the only people here are Americans, I don't live in America i live in country where i can say what i like about my government and we don't fuck over other countrys and make out like were doing it for some nobal cause.

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