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THIRTEEN
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: Hector Dragoncox on April 27, 2004, 03:29:53 PM ---^^^ no, you are just a moron. This is a very realistic movie, like I said, your just a sheltered homosexual that doesn't know what goes on. You said middle schools are not like the one that was portrayed, and thirteen year old's don't act like those in the movie. That is just a stupid ass statement, you have never even been to 99.99% of the middle schools in the United States, so you obviously wouldn't know.
There are many 13 year olds that do much worse drugs than those done in the movie, they do more sexual things, more criminal things, etc. NIK you're just a dumb moron. This movie is completely realistic.
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Guess what, idiot...The film was shot in the middle school I went to (Portola Middle School)...But wait, let's read some reviews:
"It would take exceptionally clueless parents to buy into Thirteen's premise, while real teens will most likely treat the film with disdain."
-- Daniel Eagan, FILM JOURNAL INTERNATIONAL
". . .no adult, and certainly no parent, should have to endure the attention-grabbing temper tantrum that is Thirteen."
-- Todd Gilchrist, FILMSTEW.COM
"Told with a hysteria and exaggeration usually reserved for sex-ed films"
-- Bill Chambers, FILM FREAK CENTRAL
"Only a wake-up call if you were never thirteen, never met a thirteen year old, and perhaps have never heard of a thirteen year old, no matter how old you are."
-- Josh Bell, LAS VEGAS WEEKLY
"Being realistic and avoiding mainstream clichés in a teen film is certainly commendable, but I'm not ready to declare this work as the eye-opener it perceives it may be."
-- Ozus' World Movie Reviews
hector:
--- Quote from: smerlus on April 27, 2004, 03:55:07 PM ---what's possible and probable are two different things... this movie is possible, but not probable, therefore some people might relate to it easier than others
i feel that you two might want to come to terms and agree that you are arguing about two different sides to the same coin
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uh, probably and possible are the same thing. if something is possible then there has to be a probability of it. for example, the houston rockets have a possibility to advance to round 2, but the probability of it happening is very low.
so what I get you are trying to say that there possibly really are 13 year old kids, who live their lives like portrayed in this movie. but there are not many cases like that so, it might not seem realistic because most people have not seen 13 year old kids like that.
Just cuz you have never seen any 13 year old kids like the ones portrayed in the movie, doesn't mean that they aren't around. and sure there isn't a whole lot of them out there, and most people haven't seen 13 year olds like that, so they could think the movie is unrealistic. but that is what makes movies interesting, especially movies based on real events. what would be interesting about watching a movie based on a true story, about something that you see all the time? For instance if you made a movie based on the real story of a 13 year old girl who lives in the suburbs, had a mother and father, and brother and sister, she went to a nice school, was part of the honor society, and just basically lived an avg 13 year old girls life. Now why the fuck would you wanna watch that movie? there is nothing interesting about that. which is why movies based on true stories, are about true stories that are very interesting and very RARE.
and then I find it funny that you compare the realism of this movie, with psycho, silence of the lambs, and the texas chainsaw massacre. All movies based on true stories, exagerate to a certain extent, in order to make the movie more interesting or exciting. In some cases, it is very eazy to spot that out in a movie. Now everything that happened in Thirteen, is waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy more realistic than what happened in those 3 movies you named. In fact I find the exaggeration in Thirteen, to be very little. You guys act like the shit in this movie the is way to unrealistic for a 13 year old, yet there are many 13 year olds who live much worse lives. There are 13 year olds, that carry guns, rob people, shoot people, do heorion, join gangs, are pregnant, in jail, etc. None of that shit happened in this movie, nothing even close to that bad. The movies just about as realistic as u can get, anyone who doesn't think that is just dumb.
Jome:
Anybody seen "Kids".. ?? (1995)
Thirteen was more believable than Kids..
I didn't find that much shock value in Thirteen.. pretty boring movie, imo.
At least Kids had some sort of message.. well kinda..
smerlus:
--- Quote from: Hector Dragoncox on April 27, 2004, 04:38:06 PM --- Now everything that happened in Thirteen, is waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy more realistic than what happened in those 3 movies you named.
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like in psycho, ed gein did have a fetish for his over controlling mother.....he did try to dig up her dead body and since he couldn't, he started to dig up other women that might have resembled his mother... he did take the skin from the ladies and make himself a suit , a la silence of the lambs he is also responsible for two murders to make that skin suit and finally he did wear a mask or human skin like on TCM and he did keep odd trinkets made from human pieces...
so where does the reality fade in these movies?
like you said, they take moments of the real and make them into a story that's more interesting...and seeing how it was co-written makes me think that the story is doctored quite a bit more than you want to believe...hollywood manipulates stories and people so a broad audience can find it interestin....movies go through viewing with test audiences so they can critique the movie and change things that might not make sense or seem to fit....for me to believe this movie is exactly what happened, or even close to that, would make me very naive
Javier:
im pretty sure it was co written because a teenager cant write a formal screenplay!
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