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Bush: Suicide Bombers=Murderers/So Are US. Troops
Doggystylin:
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VIOLENT? Who said it was going to be violent? I said Muslims are going to be marching on Washington, and they are having meetings here in Kansas City, and we are going to take some action. Marches, and Protesting, are non-violent campaigns.
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dogg i think your misunderstanding what trauma is sayin....hes sayin that its good that yall are marching and protesting but peacefull protests dont get the point across. only violence has done it
Trauma-san:
Yup, exactly. I was saying that nobody cares about peaceful protests.
People DO care about violent protests, but those don't work, it works the other way (people reject the message).
I'mjust saying you need to find ways at home to get your point across. It's a very slow process.
Like, for instance, the freedom marches of the 60's, in my opinion, mainly only worked because people were already looking to change, the hippie movement was just about to start, and the young generation agreed that blacks shouldn't be discriminated against. If the entire white community would have been against it, it still never would have happened. Instead, you had a lot of white college students, and younger whites in major cities who agreed with the cause, so it went through.
Same thing now. Yall are such a small minority (that are unhappy with the governments policies over there) that your message will be rejected, the peaceful protest won't matter to anyone (sadly, even me, that's what i'm saying) and you'll be wasting time better spent elsewhere.
BUT, if you started small, at home with your message, and try to influence people you know, etc. etc. etc. maybe it can grow bigger. Don't go to washington to do what you can't do in your own town.
Peace~
infinite59:
--- Quote ---Yup, exactly. I was saying that nobody cares about peaceful protests.
People DO care about violent protests, but those don't work, it works the other way (people reject the message).
I'mjust saying you need to find ways at home to get your point across. It's a very slow process.
Like, for instance, the freedom marches of the 60's, in my opinion, mainly only worked because people were already looking to change, the hippie movement was just about to start, and the young generation agreed that blacks shouldn't be discriminated against. If the entire white community would have been against it, it still never would have happened. Instead, you had a lot of white college students, and younger whites in major cities who agreed with the cause, so it went through.
Same thing now. Yall are such a small minority (that are unhappy with the governments policies over there) that your message will be rejected, the peaceful protest won't matter to anyone (sadly, even me, that's what i'm saying) and you'll be wasting time better spent elsewhere.
BUT, if you started small, at home with your message, and try to influence people you know, etc. etc. etc. maybe it can grow bigger. Don't go to washington to do what you can't do in your own town.
Peace~
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I understand what you saying now..... but what I am saying is that when they see thousands of Muslims unified and ready to cause ruckus, if shit gets out of hand, then they are going to be less likely to kill off Muslims in other countries, because they'll see that we are watching the situation very closely. Like a president would be less likely to do something corrupt, if he knows the press is on his ass every second, well we are on their ass watching for foul play.
Don Jacob:
--- Quote ---I don't appreciate being called brainwashed. because I do my research as much as anyone else here. I don't agree with the excessive bombing in the Middle East as much as Infinite and Techniec. That's not my point.
My point is that suidice bombing is murder. You guys are making it out like suicide bombing is justified due to the way the Palestinians are being treated.
That's almost like saying that it was okay for Tim McVeigh to blow up the Oklahoma building and kill all of those innocent kids in there because he had problems with the way the government treated US troops. You just can't justify that.
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exactly (this is why i love sikotik, this man has almost the exact same opinion as me everytime)
i'm not brainwashed....hell i don't even watch CNN, and the only time i do is when i watch it's sister station CNN headlines news...and that's only to see the sports scores on the bottom of the page, hell idon't even watch those news channels (cnn, fox new, cnn headline, msnbc, ect) the only thing i watch really is the sports scores and maybe the "o'reily factor" (great show btw) but other than that the only shit i watch on tv, is Basketball, MTV, BET, and FOX (simpsons, and king of the hill and shit) i read about all my shit in the newspapers (Bakersfield Calafornian, LA Times, Washtington post, NY times which we HAVE to read at school)
and tech I KNEW that Al Sharon was Prime minister of Israel, i was talking about BEFORE THAT when benjamen netenyahoo was their leader, mr. "canada won the war of 1812" and if anyone's going to be labled ANYTHING it should be you, mr. overly biased and mr. i only see things from one perspective
Doggystylin:
LOL you two are like Israel & Palestine, had a lil peace for a while that wasnt really peace but shit broke out again, lol
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