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al-Qaeda responsible for changing the government of a leading Western democracy?

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ITW [the irish boy]:
Funnily enough engelwood, that was the exact point i was trying to make.   "Muslim extremists are just using the Iraqi war as an excuse for their violent, religious fundamentalism"

That is exactly what i mean by it being a result of the iraq war. extremists are using it as an excuse and striking out at those who they see as being part of that coalition. I dont know what the argument here is.

Woodrow:
Here's the argument:

These people are so ignorant and violent, that if it wasn't the Iraq war, it'd be something else completely.

So why take their bait and say it was the War's fault? If there wasn't a war, it'd be something else. If it wasn't something else, it'd be something else alltogether.

Blaming the war just seems like a way to advance your personal political views and goals

ITW [the irish boy]:
Yeah, definately I agree that if it wasnt iraq it would be something else. But the point i'm making is I don't think it would be spain which would have been targeted, if the reason was something else.

I'm not advancing my political beliefs by blaming the war. The simple fact however is that in the eyes of these violent and ignorant people spain was ignorant by association. My political view were that the war was fought under the wrong premise, and that it could do more harm than good. I feel that bombings like this show that due to the anger which was provoked by this war, al queda have been handed extra justification and more excuses in their eyes to go after western states.


Do you believe spain would have been targeted had they not gone to war? It's a possibility, sure, but the odds are against it.

King Tech Quadafi:
I believe that Al Qaeda's beef is a political one wrapped in religious linen because it is convinient to their cause
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Woodrow:
Are you kidding? The Odds are aginst it?

Al-queda will attack any western target that they can. They hate any country that cracks down on terrorism or isn't an islamic State. It's ignorant to think just because Spain supported the USA that they are a target. ANY NON-ISLAMIC COUNTRY IS A TARGET.

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