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Whats wrong with Backpackers?
Juronimo:
I like a lot of backpacker rap. For instance, I like Atmosphere and I don't think they're any more out there on the "space rap" level then let's say, Outkast or Ghostface. I like a lot of Del's and Hiero's material and I was checking for Dilated Peoples, J5 and the Roots way before most heads had even heard of them. The thing is, the fans of backpacker rap get justifiably, a lot of flack and to be totally honest, these group of fans have gotten under my skin for over 10 years.
I used to be active in the underground scene when I was around 18 or 19 and this would be from 93-95 and these cats would hate on anyone who dared to sell more than 100,000 units. They would proclaim that so and so isn't real hip hop even if that person spoke on some real shit or paid dues. That type of thinking got on my nerves big time. A lot of these cats were suburban new jacks who were ignorant to the roots and the history of hip hop. To say that someone who comes from the streets and is from the streets is not real but then proclaim that some nice guy rapper is more real completely disregards why hip hop was started in the first place. I think this way of thinking was really summed up in Common's "I Used to Love Her" and his whiny diatribe was embraced by backpackers everywhere.
Don Breezio:
--- Quote from: RODZILLA a.k.a tha7th on March 20, 2004, 02:51:48 AM ---Luke, I'ma be strate up, The reason why Backpack Rap gets hated on is becuase of people like U......let it go, yur argument is pointless......U would not win in court......
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court? this is a hip hop arguement...not murder...anways i have nothing to do with why so called backpack rap has a bad rep...i dont even believe in calling it backpack rap...its music just like everything else. i listen to everything not just backpack rap and you know that. today alone i bumped boo ya tribe in the morning, sisqo in the afternoon, and some old common on my way home...i am in no way a backpacker.
--- Quote ---U bump backpack shit in the hood and you'll get clowned, why? cuzz of the fans, they've made it lame......
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1)...i dont bump anything in the hood, 2) why worry about what other people in the hood think...be your own person.
--- Quote ---U can call artists like Paul Wall, Atmosphere, Necro etc "underground as hell", but TRUTH is they are cashing in more money than alot of mainstream cats.....U gotta understand the game 1st before U make these bold statements.....There are many different routes to success in tha music business, tha average fan has no clue what that means.....
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i have no doubt that they are making more money than a lot of mainstream artists...but they are still a hell of a lot more underground than someone like royce or raekwon.
--- Quote ---U talk about how in today's society it is becoming unacceptable to rap or listen to rap if you are white......WHAT? cmon mane, wat in tha name of FUC are U talkin about? U gotta be kidding me, what kinda hicksville U from? Do U ever get out there? I mean if you're really interested as U seem about topics like this, then I suggest U get the square your world is in and go out and explore what's really goin on in SOCIETY.
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its just as unnaceptable in a town like this one to listen to rap as it is for you to bump britney spears in the hood. simple as that.
--- Quote ---Basically, the media & the loyal fans shape the general public's opinions and views.....It blows my mind the amount of ignorance there is, but there's no changing that.....We gotta understand 99% of all people are not in the game seeing what's really happenin, 99% of people are not fans that go in deep and explore what's crackin like alot of cats on WCC.....so U can't really blame tha general public.....It's the media and those loyal fans that brainwash the rest into thinking 1 way without researching.....The loyal fans to backpack acts are the LAMEST out of all therefore get lil to no respect by tha rest.....But we can't judge em either.....I like alot of backpack shit, the concious portions of some of they albums, but for the most part, I could care less about em and U won't catch me bumpin something like that out tha trunk.....Put it this way, U might be feeling the new B2K single, U bump it at home, groove to it or wuteva u do, but would U bump that out loud somewhere? Ofcourse every man has to be an individual......but we live by most society standards, if U like to believe that or not, dats up to U......But don't let the media fool U.....
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actually i would bump the new B2K single if i was feelin it...just as NIK said above...if its dope its dope and im gonna bump it nomatter who it is or where i am.
--- Quote ---Make sure 2 give EVERYTHING a chance at tha least......U take a cat like Cassidy for example, he gettin a bad rap by the ignorant because of his Hotel single, I heard this cat tha other day at a party callin him a commercial clown......but truth is, Cassidy has been a street LEGEND in Philly since he was 15 years old......He got a real impressive battle record, been freestyle champion in many tournys.....He has MADD flows.....but he CHOSE that route and did what he had 2 do.....don't hate, congrajulate......I congrajulate every backback rapper's success but for the most part, I aint feelin em like that and they fans can stay away from me......
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personally i like cassidy...hotel was dope...may not of been a lyrical masterpeice but it was dope. had a good feel. i have thought about picking his album up but i wanna hear some reviews on it first (from other rap fans...i hate critics)
^_^:
These kind of arguements are annoying. There's nothing wrong with *backpacker* hip hop as people here like to call it. And that's just it, there's nothing wrong with it just as thier is nothing wrong with artists who don't identify as part of that more independant group of rappers.
Every scene has it's wack shit, and it's ill shit.
Personally, i think artists who have been described here as *backpacker* *nerd rap* or whatever other buzz term, are in general alot more creative and talented than alot of more aboveground and popular acts.
Doggystylin:
lmao sgv just shit on himself and his whole backpacker protest by actually putting a backpacker certified album in his sig, he has Murs in his sig, man sgv your one confused ass mothafucka
SGV:
--- Quote from: Doggy aka Pitbull on March 22, 2004, 05:36:13 PM ---lmao sgv just shit on himself and his whole backpacker protest by actually putting a backpacker certified album in his sig, he has Murs in his sig, man sgv your one confused ass mothafucka
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Where was the protest idiot?
--- Quote from: SGV on March 18, 2004, 09:56:04 PM ---For the most part, it's not the Backpack rappers, it's the fans. Just like in any case, the fans ALWAYS give a bad rap to the artists. Backpack Rap fans are horrible.
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Go back to suckin' on Krayzie Bone man, that seems to be your thing. It's obvious reading isn't.
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