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when is war justified?
Trauma-san:
We shouldn't get out of the U.N.! There's lots of money to be made there. Just look at all the money France, Germany, and the U.N. as an organization were making off of the "Oil For Food" program that Saddam was pocketing the money from.
It works like this. You pass a resolution that says the United States is going to kick your ass if you don't ONLY sell oil for money that will be spent on food.
So, you brokerage the oil sales, and keep a percentage for the trouble (the U.N.).
When Saddam just hordes and pockets all the money, building Arab disneylands in his palaces and such, you pass another 14 resolutions saying he's a 'bad man'.
When the United States wants to end all this bullshit, and actually enforce any of the resolutions you've passed; you have Germany or France, or Russia (who were selling Saddam navigation devices to use in war) veto the vote, so that the U.N. can't approve a United States invasion of Iraq to enfore the 14 resolutions your sham has instituted over the last 10 years; you keep making profit off of the oil sales 'for food' (HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA nice inside joke on the children of Iraq) and it lands your gung-ho buddies in the U.S. in all the hot water.
It's really a great institution, not many people can not only run the racket but write the laws that govern it; and when it comes down to it, not even have to do any of the fighting or financing.
FuNk-U-uP:
Halliburton doesn't get any reconstruction contracts? Israel isn't claiming some of the oil? LMAO @ Israel wanting oil from its enemy. I mean it's a "grab what you can" situation.
By the way Trauma, why did we support Saddam during the time that the oil fields weren't nationalized, in the same way we supported Iran during the time the oil fields weren't nationalized? Then as soon as he nationalizes the oil fields we call him a fuckin dictator and what-not. Fact of the matter is he was killing his people while we supported him. Only difference was that he nationalized the oil at one point. Then the Iraq-Iran war came, and we had to chose the lesser of 2 evils. I mean seriously, do you not think our fucked up foreign policy of the last 50something years is to blame for the bullshit going on.
FuNk-U-uP:
Read about what happened in Central America when countries decided to nationalize bananas and the United Fruit Co went crazy.
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 06:35:53 PM ---Halliburton doesn't get any reconstruction contracts? Israel isn't claiming some of the oil? LMAO @ Israel wanting oil from its enemy. I mean it's a "grab what you can" situation.
By the way Trauma, why did we support Saddam during the time that the oil fields weren't nationalized, in the same way we supported Iran during the time the oil fields weren't nationalized? Then as soon as he nationalizes the oil fields we call him a fuckin dictator and what-not. Fact of the matter is he was killing his people while we supported him. Only difference was that he nationalized the oil at one point. Then the Iraq-Iran war came, and we had to chose the lesser of 2 evils. I mean seriously, do you not think our fucked up foreign policy of the last 50something years is to blame for the bullshit going on.
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O.K., let me follow your rationale.
Bush, before he was governor, supported Saddam Hussein.
This is all about Bush, isn't it? What, should we be friends with Saddam, then? Is that what you're avocating? Were we wrong then, or now?
FuNk-U-uP:
Either you didn't read my post, or you're just fuckin dumb. I clearly stated that our foreign policy of the last 50-60 years is to blame. Does that get through to your narrow mind?
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