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when is war justified?
smerlus:
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--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on March 29, 2004, 09:08:31 AM ---war is justified if an other country attacked you or has annouced war on you or your allies, USA in afghanistan and iraq was absolutely unjustified and if there was something like hell which isnt, the neocons would definitly go there.
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ummmm afghanistan didn't attack us but were housing a major training facility of the ones responsible for the 9/11 attacks soooo that was justified
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I know the circumstances, but if some crazy dudes in columbine would have attacked china or somethin lol, would it be right for China to bomb the trash out of the US? doubt it. also, if the perpretraitors of 9/11 would be citizens of a more so-called civilized country like e.g. England, France or Germany, you cant tell me they wouldve bombed this country lol.
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columbine children (still wondering the validity of such a comparison??!!) don't have a big influence on our government plus our government would gladly hand them over if there was a group in the US making terrorists attacks on other countries... a so called civilized country would also hand over such criminals.... we attacked afghanistan because they would not cooperate with us and let us bring the terrorists to justice
7even:
a country is not supposed to give their citizens to another country when they did a crime.
for example, if a mexican has 200 kilos of cocaine in his trunks, gets chased by american police in californ-i-a, they cant do shit to him as soon as he is over the border... and the mexican government wont force him back to american where he has to go to jail.
of course you cant compare a drug dilla to an organisation that is responsible for such sick terrorism. but that aint the point. point is, ppl are brought to justice in their own country, not in the country in which they did the crime.
I agree to some degree that it was a bitch-move of afghanistan tho, but I assume they had no other chance. Of course the war is more justified than the war in iraq, even tho I wont call it justified either.
but hey, we're still alive. that's the only good (or bad?!) news in these times.
white Boy:
you cant always wait to get atacked to go to war... (im not justifing america, im jsut saying)...
Lincoln:
The US definetly had a right to go into Afghanistan but I don't believe they were justified with Iraq. Afganis did attack them first, after all.
smerlus:
mexico is one of the few countries that do not turn over criminals. when that kid spray painted all that shit in singapore...the US handed him over to singapore authorities.... when the military commits crimes over seas, not only are they tried by the host country but also the US justice system....
in fact there was a guy that was 7 years older than me that went to my high school....he beat his mom to death with a bat, got away with it, the proceded to commit violent crimes such as rape...when the cops were closing in on him, he made it look like he commited suicide by going over the falls
5 years later, it turns out he ended going to college in Canada under a fake name and got caught raping and beating a girl. canada is trying him for the rape and assault charge, and when he's done with that, they are handing him over to get tried over here....
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