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Lincoln:
When you die, your spirit waits for the Day of Judgement, when the Lord God/Allah (swt) judges everyone. We are on this earth in order to worship our Lord, who is infinite in His wisdom and His greatness.

white Boy:
What i belive...
Science for 1, big bang.... i DO belive in a GOD tho, BUT he  is not a he, i think god was not a man or a woman , but something unimaginable, and created the first thing, and the system (program), in which thing will happen, i belive he did not just create man, he created a plan in which the universe would form, and life would be able to form, and from then on came evolution and time... i dont beolive in organized religion, truthfully i think people need something to belive in, throughout all of history, they just cant accept the fact that when we die, we die, (i dont belive in heaven, or hell), i think its just over, and our body releases energy back into the enviorment. But i think religion was used for control, because people are so mentaly weak, and when they hear something good, they want to belive in it, cause why would they want to belive in something bad... plus during like the middle ages it became the norm, and any rebels or anti - church people would just get killed... i DEFFINATLY belive in like outside this planet, its a joke to think we are the only race in a universe trillion times bigger than us...also, i have no clue what will happen in 30, 50 or even 100 years, we are growing so fast, just think about 10 years ago, and how everything is so different now...

TwoMansBitch:

--- Quote from: Z the laidback Virus on March 29, 2004, 10:20:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Max Powers on March 29, 2004, 09:30:29 AM ---Its also hard to believe there is no god/creator.

--- End quote ---

I have absolutely no problem with believing that. So please speak only for yourself.

God is an invention to get a hold over people for those that spread the word about him will be seen as the medium between this God and the followers wich gives this person huge power. Imagine this scene after a farmer has found a sizeable treasure:

Farmer: Priest, look! I found a treasure. I am rich!

Priest:You are now but your wealth will be all gone in the eternal life.You can better invest in knowing God better and deepening your spiritual life then keeping these riches from the community. Indeed,God will punish you if you do not put this treasure to better use!

Farmer: You are right. But what can I do to find a better use for it,your eminence? What purpose will make God feel merciful for my greed moments ago?What could I do with this treasure to redeem my wrongful deeds?

Priest: Donate it to the Church. I'll guarantee you of a place in heaven if you immediately give me these riches.




--- End quote ---



ok well that isnt really god .. that is a greedy priest and i agree with you completely that that is how they are.. thats why i hate organized religion..

infinite59:
The truth is that God is One.  When we die we will be held accountable for our actions here on Earth, and dealt with accordingly.

Z the laidback Virus:

--- Quote from: TwoMansBitch on March 29, 2004, 06:29:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Z the laidback Virus on March 29, 2004, 10:20:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Max Powers on March 29, 2004, 09:30:29 AM ---Its also hard to believe there is no god/creator.

--- End quote ---

I have absolutely no problem with believing that. So please speak only for yourself.

God is an invention to get a hold over people for those that spread the word about him will be seen as the medium between this God and the followers wich gives this person huge power. Imagine this scene after a farmer has found a sizeable treasure:

Farmer: Priest, look! I found a treasure. I am rich!

Priest:You are now but your wealth will be all gone in the eternal life.You can better invest in knowing God better and deepening your spiritual life then keeping these riches from the community. Indeed,God will punish you if you do not put this treasure to better use!

Farmer: You are right. But what can I do to find a better use for it,your eminence? What purpose will make God feel merciful for my greed moments ago?What could I do with this treasure to redeem my wrongful deeds?

Priest: Donate it to the Church. I'll guarantee you of a place in heaven if you immediately give me these riches.




--- End quote ---



ok well that isnt really god .. that is a greedy priest and i agree with you completely that that is how they are.. thats why i hate organized religion..

--- End quote ---

That was exactly what I meant. Though I wouldn't recommend it, people can believe in whatever they like to,even when that dictates you should worship your dirty socks. It's the organized part that's the problem.Also,a group with an organised religion is more likely to disrespect other's beliefs or non-beliefs and even look down on these people then a lone person.A good example of this is that a Pope once had a decrete that said:

'The crossbow is an uncivilised and brutal weapon and as such may only be used against non-Christians.'

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