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Over 30 US Troops killed in 3 days. Kennedy calls Iraq "Vietnam".
FuNk-U-uP:
--- Quote from: Krayze-Eyez Killah on April 07, 2004, 12:26:00 PM ---I'm now gonna call Vietnam "Ted Kennedy's Brother's Iraq."
I will also continue to call Jack Daniels "Ted Kennedy's Pepsi"
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LOL. Funny, yet true.
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 01:19:12 PM ---
I think the calling it a "Vietnam" has more to do with the fact that it was an unjustified war, a war we had no reason to fight in, a war that that we had no right to fight, etc. The death toll is WAY lower than that of Vietnam, but it still is higher than expected.
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You're wrong. The reason Ted Kennedy (and he has stated this) has given for calling it "Vietnam" is because he says it's a "Quagmire" whatever the fuck that is. It's a political talking point that the dems like to throw about about whatever they can pin on Bush... "It's a quagmire" people don't even talk like that, but yet the word keeps popping up in all these liberal mouthpieces out there. Why? .. because they're not even inspired enough to come up with their OWN wrong bullshit.
Anyways, The simple reason this isn't like Vietnam is because when we pulled out of 'Nam, the regime was still in power and had actually expanded and taken over some further cities AFTER our invasion. 50 thousand died, etc.
Compare that to 600 dead (or whatever the number is) today, and a toppled regime, a new government, and resources like power and water plants in better shape now than before the war, and you most definately can't intelligently compare this to Vietnam. Of course nobody's saying Teddie's intelligent. Hell, the only "I" word that describes him is "Inebriated".
FuNk-U-uP:
--- Quote from: I Just Wasn't Made For These Times on April 07, 2004, 01:57:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: FuNk-U-uP on April 07, 2004, 01:19:12 PM ---
I think the calling it a "Vietnam" has more to do with the fact that it was an unjustified war, a war we had no reason to fight in, a war that that we had no right to fight, etc. The death toll is WAY lower than that of Vietnam, but it still is higher than expected.
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You're wrong. The reason Ted Kennedy (and he has stated this) has given for calling it "Vietnam" is because he says it's a "Quagmire" whatever the fuck that is. It's a political talking point that the dems like to throw about about whatever they can pin on Bush... "It's a quagmire" people don't even talk like that, but yet the word keeps popping up in all these liberal mouthpieces out there. Why? .. because they're not even inspired enough to come up with their OWN wrong bullshit.
Anyways, The simple reason this isn't like Vietnam is because when we pulled out of 'Nam, the regime was still in power and had actually expanded and taken over some further cities AFTER our invasion. 50 thousand died, etc.
Compare that to 600 dead (or whatever the number is) today, and a toppled regime, a new government, and resources like power and water plants in better shape now than before the war, and you most definately can't intelligently compare this to Vietnam. Of course nobody's saying Teddie's intelligent. Hell, the only "I" word that describes him is "Inebriated".
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As I had stated, it has nothing to do with the number of deaths because the casualties in the two wars are not comparable. My statement about it being over the war's justification was just my opinion, hence the words "I think...". But thanks for clarifying. Trauma, do you not think that when a Democrat is in office, Republicans bust the same hypocritical bullshit as the Democrats are doing now?
Woodrow:
Do some research into the reasons we fought Vietnam.
FuNk-U-uP:
--- Quote from: Krayze-Eyez Killah on April 07, 2004, 03:46:55 PM ---Do some research into the reasons we fought Vietnam.
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I know the reasons, but a lot of our citizens didn't see those reasons as just causes to go and fight the war there.
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