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I hate to say this but...hip-hop/rap is negative music
Doggystylin:
ok, first of all i wanna thank everyone for keeping this conversation respectable
ok, first to teecee, yes rap is entertainment and i agree that people should be resposible, but so many young people that dont have a parent out there look up to these people as idols, I don't know about any of you but when i was 13, I sure as hell wanted to be like snoop and i think that rappers should take these things into consideration, because when you have as much power as someone who is reaching out to so many people, why doest the ARTIST HIMSELF, let the kids know, hey you know this is just entertainment. I'm tired of 50 brag about gettin shot like its a good thing, thats what i hate about rappers, you say they dont glorify negativity, but just listen to their music man. but then you have your entertainment arugment which is a strong argument, but i just dont like the vibes they give out to people. i mean a lot of people just dont understand the energy system, and how you can give bad energy to someone.
I'm not saying im never going to listen to hip hop again, I NEVER said that, I'm just noting, hip hop is negative, and it can really effect you if you listen to it too much, let it be entertainment and nothing else, so many people look at songs and albums as guidebooks, its crazy.
Will i listen to hip-hop less? yeah, i probably will. because to be honest, i dont see much growth in hip hop, i see so much negativity and repetition and its just real dull and redundant, so ill probably check out that hot creative album that gets released every once in a while, while i expand my horizons and listen to other types of music instead of listening to hiphop all the time.
Now neija huga, rap from the ghetto DOES NOT have to be negative, nothing HAS to be negative,almost everything can be flipped and turned into something positive, but that is not the case, i dont mind rappers explaining their environment, but once a rapper is rich and living in the suburbs i really doubt their environment is still so negative, rappers just have that negative mentality.
Rap, CAN be positive music, it has been proven, but it is not, so aslong as you accept all the heat rap is getting with no problem, then ok, but dont think that rappers are victimised, because they bring it upon themselves.
infinite59:
I'll reply more on this in a minute, but you must know that almost all entertainment in this country relays a negetive message. We are living in a country of unbelief, anything for a dollar. Sex, violence, and sensationalism sells. It's even on your 5 oclock news, murder, rape, fear. They are selling the product of fear on your 10 oclock news! So don't single out hip-hop! Atleast rappers try to be honest with themselves.
ZILLA THA GOODFELLA:
^thank you.
Doggystylin:
lol for what^
Infinite said nothing new or anything that defends hip-hop. He said atleast hip hop is honest, ummm, thats laughable. Since when is hip hop honest, hip hop is filled with fairy tales about the hood. Of course there is truth in some hip-hop but then again there is some truth in movies and all other forms of entertainment. Rappers aren't even honest with themselves, with every rapper out there claiming their greater than others and trying to prove their gangsta. I've seen about a handfull of artists be honest with themselves. One of them is Kanye West who admits hes self-conscious and an asshole, but when have you seen Dre admit he has a big ego, infact he made a song about others having big ego's LMAO, again, very laughable comment. Next please.......
infinite59:
--- Quote from: Doggy aka Pitbull on April 08, 2004, 06:59:30 PM ---lol for what^
Infinite said nothing new or anything that defends hip-hop. He said atleast hip hop is honest, ummm, thats laughable. Since when is hip hop honest, hip hop is filled with fairy tales about the hood. Of course there is truth in some hip-hop but then again there is some truth in movies and all other forms of entertainment. Rappers aren't even honest with themselves, with every rapper out there claiming their greater than others and trying to prove their gangsta. I've seen about a handfull of artists be honest with themselves. One of them is Kanye West who admits hes self-conscious and an asshole, but when have you seen Dre admit he has a big ego, infact he made a song about others having big ego's LMAO, again, very laughable comment. Next please.......
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The meat of my argument is that hip-hop is negetive just like almost all entertainment in America is negetive. Argue that point. And what I meant about rappers being honest with themselves is that they will tell you from the get go that they don't "give a fuck". That they are saying whatever the fuck they want and that they are just talkin shit. Most rappers admit that they are all about money and hoes. They will tell you that. It's different when a news reporter gets on CNN and wears a suit and tie and promotes and claims to represent moral good to the world.
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