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I hate to say this but...hip-hop/rap is negative music
ZILLA THA GOODFELLA:
--- Quote from: Doggy aka Pitbull on April 10, 2004, 08:47:17 AM ---your the one who has to open your eyes, you think, oh everythings so bad, everythings so negative, everythings so rough,oh grow up, that type of mentality is childish.
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naw mane, it is ruff, it ain't no childish mentality, he's expressin how it is, dats real....if it don't apply to yur life, then don't speak on it....shit's ruff, but we don't need 2 be reminded by these type of threads....
bottomline doggy, U don't have a solution....what rapper is gone make songs about happy things on his whole album? lol....and if it's so stupid when certain rappers speak about they hood and how they came up, then don't listen, what is the big deal? U can't change anything....and yur still gone be listenin 2 tha same negative stuff....so end this bullshit.
Don Breezio:
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--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on April 09, 2004, 09:08:22 AM ---Hiphop is life and life is negative.
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life's only negative if you let it be
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get the fuck outta here wit that... look what grundy said, he's basically right too.
Entertainment: Negative. So is Rap. See: comedy is mainly making fun of ppl --> negative.
movies: mainly ppl in trouble, drama, ppl getting killed, hurt etc --> negative.
music, Rap..: negative.
Entertainment is negative.
Our World: negative.
News: terrorist attacks, war in the middle east, rapes of little children, murderers, lies of presidents.. --> Negative.
My life: no job, bad grades at school, parents have hardly any money to support me with, my sister has to raise her 3 kids in a 3-Room-Flat on the 5th floor together with her husband, etc.... --> Negative.
Bottom Line: it is what it is. hiphop is negative, but so is life. and it's not like you let life be, it is just negative as a fact. of course you can ignore all the negative stuff and be happy or whatever, but c'mon, open your fuckin eyes.
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god damn...you really are getting fucked by the media arent you? for every negative thing in entertainment there is an equally positive one to make up for it...hip hop being the exception because there isnt much positivity in it...but movies...theres tons of postive ones, games....theres tons of games like GTA yes...but then theres tons of games like GT3, Crazy Taxi, NBA Street, etc...where they arent negative at all (minus a little trash talk ;D),
then you say life is negative? no...the only negative parts of life are what you see on tv...as i said...life's only negative if you let it be and thats probably the realest thing anyone has said out of this entire thread...stop acting like this is hell on earth....think about how worse off you could be...i dunno bout you but i sure as hell thank god for not being homeless, or retarded, or even being a drunk or something like that...those people have it way worse off than we do.
Leggy Hendrix:
damn, no disrespect intended, cos i dont know u but, some of those things u said about ur life i.e. bad grades at school, no job...are things that are kind of self inflicted...like, no matter what people say, everyone is capable of getting good grades, even if not in all subjects, and so job prospects are a follow on from that. i agree with Luke, there are a lot of people who are worse off in this world, for example i work with the a Red Cross project near where i live, with guys who are severely disabled, who are unable to walk, talk, have no control over there limbs etc etc...and they attend college to try and better themselves rather than focusing on the negativity...
Don Breezio:
--- Quote from: Moncharelli on April 10, 2004, 11:50:05 AM ---damn, no disrespect intended, cos i dont know u but, some of those things u said about ur life i.e. bad grades at school, no job...are things that are kind of self inflicted...like, no matter what people say, everyone is capable of getting good grades, even if not in all subjects, and so job prospects are a follow on from that. i agree with Luke, there are a lot of people who are worse off in this world, for example i work with the a Red Cross project near where i live, with guys who are severely disabled, who are unable to walk, talk, have no control over there limbs etc etc...and they attend college to try and better themselves rather than focusing on the negativity...
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exactly...i worked at a place for a few weeks (volunteered) at Delta Rehab Center...where theres a couple hundered residents who either can't walk, can't talk, can't think...or all three...because of stupid shit they did in their lives before...and i gotta say seeing that shit makes you really think about how good your life is.
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: Doggy aka Pitbull on April 07, 2004, 05:45:50 PM ---Yes, it is true, I hate to admit it, but its true, I mean some of you just dont understand the energy these people are sending out with their voice and lyrics, even if you are not listening to the music, just the energy in the songs.
hip-hop rarely brings across good messages and good vibes, and those are the conscious heads like talib kweli and mos def.
I mean what I cant understand is how an artist like dr dre can be STILL talking about the same shit he was talking about a decade ago and NOT GROW. The guy is damn near 40 years old, I would feel stupid as hell if i was him. After a while I just get fed up with these gangsta tales, I find it childish.
Then there is the influence this music has on society, which i will not get into too much because i feel like the listener has a resposibility of NOT BEING STUPID. but then the person making the music should be aware of the effects he will have with every word he says, well OF COURSE, a musician does not want you go out and kill people or do drugs and get in trouble or whatever, but he has to know his power. and a lot of rappers are ignorant to this.
I have been a defender of hip hop my whole life, i have always loved it and defended it like it was my family but now i have come to the realization that just about 90% of rap is negative and has negative effects. after reading a interview between cam'ron dame dash and bill o reilly, there really was no way to defend cam.
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Of course you're right, and of course many will disagree with you.... but it's the truth, people have known things like this forever. why do you think you feel good when you hear a good song? It's because it has an effect on you. Obviously, a negative song is going to have a negative effect on you, too, anybody should be able to figure that one out. Anybody that's ever heard a metallica song and ended up going 90 miles an hour down the freeway listening to it KNOWS music has an effect on your state of mind.
I totally agree with the evaluation of Dre, too, it's getting to the point it's embarassing. At least the young guys have an excuse, they can say they're ignorant. Dre should know better.
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