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What a disgusting Laker-Game today vs. the Kings
.:DayGoStyLz:.:
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--- Quote from: .:DayGoStyLz:. on April 13, 2004, 06:36:12 PM ---lol hmmmm
u can make an argument for Garnett. Kobe tho only goes as far as Shaq takes him. But even Garnett has more help around him then Duncan does. And San Antionio is in a position to take the west POSSIBLY. When Duncan and Garnett go head to head, Duncan typically gets the advantage. I like Garnett, so i wont hate on him. But u know theyre not gonna give the MVP to Duncan 3 yrs in a row, they want a new face.
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Kobe only goes as far as Shaq takes him? It's dumbass comments like that which make me sick...Are we even watching the same player? Kobe is easily playing a lot better than Shaq this season...Have you not seen him single-handedly bring the Lakers back from 25 point 4th quarter deficits this season? You obviously don't watch Laker games, or listen to any NBA analysts who have said Kobe is by far the best in the league when he plays to full potential... ::)
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lol how many MVP's does Kobe have? Apparently he has NEVER played to his full potential....lol. what a shame. And Shaq is a much more solid player the Kobe. Not so inconsistent. Kobe can carry u guys...and ruin u guys all in the same game. thats not a MVP.
.:DayGoStyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on April 13, 2004, 07:11:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DayGoStyLz:. on April 13, 2004, 06:36:12 PM ---lol hmmmm
u can make an argument for Garnett. Kobe tho only goes as far as Shaq takes him. But even Garnett has more help around him then Duncan does. And San Antionio is in a position to take the west POSSIBLY. When Duncan and Garnett go head to head, Duncan typically gets the advantage. I like Garnett, so i wont hate on him. But u know theyre not gonna give the MVP to Duncan 3 yrs in a row, they want a new face.
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Kobe only goes as far as Shaq takes him? It's dumbass comments like that which make me sick...Are we even watching the same player? Kobe is easily playing a lot better than Shaq this season...Have you not seen him single-handedly bring the Lakers back from 25 point 4th quarter deficits this season? You obviously don't watch Laker games, or listen to any NBA analysts who have said Kobe is by far the best in the league when he plays to full potential... ::)
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oh, one more thing...i havent heard too many NBA analyst (with the exception of Jack Haley, who ISNT an NBA analyst!) say Kobe was the best player in the league lol. Last year he had some analyst backing him, just like Garnett did, just like Duncan did, just like T-Mac did, just like Shaq did. But Duncan was still the MVP, and Kobe wasnt even the runner up i believe. This year he wont even finish in the top 4 (im not dogging him about that, obviously with whats been goin on he wouldnt be able to be). But Basketball common sense would tell u who that teams MVP is. Shaqs game sets up everyone elses...INCLUDING Kobe's. Shit, Kobe can hardly get past Bruce Bowen on his own lol
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: .:DayGoStyLz:. on April 13, 2004, 10:19:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on April 13, 2004, 07:11:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DayGoStyLz:. on April 13, 2004, 06:36:12 PM ---lol hmmmm
u can make an argument for Garnett. Kobe tho only goes as far as Shaq takes him. But even Garnett has more help around him then Duncan does. And San Antionio is in a position to take the west POSSIBLY. When Duncan and Garnett go head to head, Duncan typically gets the advantage. I like Garnett, so i wont hate on him. But u know theyre not gonna give the MVP to Duncan 3 yrs in a row, they want a new face.
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Kobe only goes as far as Shaq takes him? It's dumbass comments like that which make me sick...Are we even watching the same player? Kobe is easily playing a lot better than Shaq this season...Have you not seen him single-handedly bring the Lakers back from 25 point 4th quarter deficits this season? You obviously don't watch Laker games, or listen to any NBA analysts who have said Kobe is by far the best in the league when he plays to full potential... ::)
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oh, one more thing...i havent heard too many NBA analyst (with the exception of Jack Haley, who ISNT an NBA analyst!) say Kobe was the best player in the league lol. Last year he had some analyst backing him, just like Garnett did, just like Duncan did, just like T-Mac did, just like Shaq did. But Duncan was still the MVP, and Kobe wasnt even the runner up i believe. This year he wont even finish in the top 4 (im not dogging him about that, obviously with whats been goin on he wouldnt be able to be). But Basketball common sense would tell u who that teams MVP is. Shaqs game sets up everyone elses...INCLUDING Kobe's. Shit, Kobe can hardly get past Bruce Bowen on his own lol
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MVP doesn't mean shit...Kobe was robbed of the MVP last year, because his team wasn't doing shit. But he still carried the whole fuckin team, and took them to the playoffs ON HIS OWN...And if you haven't heard analysts saying that Kobe is the best player in the league, then you don't watch basketball...Plain and simple.
Don Jacob:
MVP's arn't for who is the best player in the league it's for who was more valuable to their team and who had nice team record....jordan was easily the best player in the league just about every year he was playing except for the 2 years with the wizards and perhaps his rookie year, but he didn't win all the MVP's. Kobe is by far the leagues most talented player....the orlando game against t-mac sealed the deal for me
kobe isn't the leagues MVP this year but neither is duncan
it's easily Garnett or O'neal....jermaine
and like i said before all 4 top seeds have an equal chance of taking it right now, because they're all equally deadly, the lakers , kings, and spurs are playing CRAPPY ball period... and are all inconsistant right now. the onlt team playing hungry playoff ball is the wolves.....i'm a die hard laker fan but i tell it how it is.
.:DayGoStyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Don Jacob Corleone on April 13, 2004, 11:10:33 PM ---MVP's arn't for who is the best player in the league it's for who was more valuable to their team and who had nice team record....jordan was easily the best player in the league just about every year he was playing except for the 2 years with the wizards and perhaps his rookie year, but he didn't win all the MVP's. Kobe is by far the leagues most talented player....the orlando game against t-mac sealed the deal for me
kobe isn't the leagues MVP this year but neither is duncan
it's easily Garnett or O'neal....jermaine
and like i said before all 4 top seeds have an equal chance of taking it right now, because they're all equally deadly, the lakers , kings, and spurs are playing CRAPPY ball period... and are all inconsistant right now. the onlt team playing hungry playoff ball is the wolves.....i'm a die hard laker fan but i tell it how it is.
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wait...the Spurs are the hottest team in the league right now with a 10 game win streak headed into the playoffs. they are atop espn's power rankings, above Minnesota who is in the middle of a 8 game win streak. So i dont think theyre playin crappy. theyre capable of playing better, but theyre also playing better then anyone else at this time. And i know theres a difference between MVP and "Best Player". My point was, Kobe (to me) isnt even the MVP of his team...so i cant consider him the "Best" in the league. Jordan was the best player in the league for most of his career, BUT was he EVER not the MVP of his team? lol.
And for NIK, even the blindest Kobe fan cant say that theyve seen analyst all year sayin he's the best player in the league. Cmon man, be honest. Like i said, last year he had analyst backing him, but not anymore then Duncan, Garnett, or T-mac. And u saying that he did it by himself last year, means you think the rest of the team is shit? You claimed before the season started that the Lakers had a stronger supporting cast around your big 4, then Duncan did around him. Last year Duncan was MVP, this year he'll be either 2 or 3rd. Kobe not even in the top 5. So if thats the case (like u said it was), then Duncan is by FAR the more valuable and better player then Kobe. Correct? Unless youre going back on your original statement, to say that the Spurs bench and supporting cast is far superior to the Lakers.
btw, i still believe Duncan should get the nod over KG. KG has alot more help then he has in the past, but thats about it. Duncans numbers are very close to what they were last year, but his team LOST people. No David Robinson to help out defensively and with rebounds down low was huge. But his team is still contending for best in the west. Garnett has Spree and Cassell with him. Like i said, Garnett deserves to be up there in the running. And obviously u can make an argument for him, and Jermaine O'neal. But if Duncan was the MVP last year, and the year before, i dont see the difference this year..except KG having more help.
Damn...if the Spurs just woulda went after Jermaine a lil more aggressively! uggg...
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