Author Topic: Trauma  (Read 563 times)

infinite59

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Re:Trauma
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2004, 03:12:08 PM »
Let's be fair, the movie did point to some of the blame being on a government that practices aggresion and has historically been oppressive towards those that stand against it's will.  It also pointed to the sensationalism in our news media as being somewhat responsible.  But Luke is right that Micheal Moore just gives you different idea's but never decides for the viewer who is to blame.  The point of the movie is that he is trying to figure that out for himself and he never does.
 

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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2004, 03:36:57 PM »
Let's be fair, the movie did point to some of the blame being on a government that practices aggresion and has historically been oppressive towards those that stand against it's will.  It also pointed to the sensationalism in our news media as being somewhat responsible.  But Luke is right that Micheal Moore just gives you different idea's but never decides for the viewer who is to blame.  The point of the movie is that he is trying to figure that out for himself and he never does.


And if Michael Moore was Muslim, this movie would be a classic...Right?
 

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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2004, 03:40:40 PM »
Let's be fair, the movie did point to some of the blame being on a government that practices aggresion and has historically been oppressive towards those that stand against it's will.  It also pointed to the sensationalism in our news media as being somewhat responsible.  But Luke is right that Micheal Moore just gives you different idea's but never decides for the viewer who is to blame.  The point of the movie is that he is trying to figure that out for himself and he never does.


And if Michael Moore was Muslim, this movie would be a classic...Right?

LMFAO  :D
 

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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2004, 03:41:59 PM »
im with trauma on this
 

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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2004, 05:23:06 PM »
Michael Moore doesn't BLAME nobody...

what tha fuc is goin on here? I can't believe Trauma, sittin there analyzing a movie he has not even watched. Moore asks simple questions, he asks why are we so violent? yes, we do have a violent history, but countries like Germany, Britain, Japan etc etc have an even more violent history...but what are their murder by gun rates? like 100 a year, japan like 23....but AMERICA? 11,000....he simply goes into it and expresses his ideas with alot of information supporting them....but he clearly states he does not know why we are so violent....he doesn't blame anyone....he states simple ass shit like selling 9mm bullets at K Mart is wrong, seeing brutal tragedies every fucin night on tha news is wrong, tha media scaring tha american public is wrong, everybody is afraid these days....he makes a FOOL out of Charlton Heston's dumb ass 2 tha point where he gets up and doesn't have nothing else 2 say....Dick Clarke's faggot ass too....

WATCH THE MOVIE....then come discuss in specifics what U find wrong, ....why does tha white dood disgust U anyway Trauma? he prolly looks just like U....aint tryin 2 make this personal but U have no valid points....so he's "liberal" ok so what??? who gives a fuc about that man made word....how bout REAL?









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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2004, 06:02:42 PM »
Columbine massacre is where it starts, but the movie actually goes quite far beyond it. I always considered it a general examination of the subject of guns, murders by guns and crime and safety in general in America. Columbine is only a starting point

Trauma I'd love to see you pointin out where exactly that movie blames the whitehouse for Columbine and everybody else is considered an innocent victim, but damn, you'd have to watch it for that   ::)

Also first you say Moore thinks no conservative can ever do right and no liberal can ever do wrong. Well, Moore is definitely a liberal, but your statements make you just as apodictic and prejudiced as you blame him for bein cause 1. you judge a movie you ain't seen and 2. you keep usin "liberal" as a pejorative term all the time, so to me you clearly suggest that "liberals" by your definition are wrong, PERIOD, otherwise why should you use it as an offense? Where's the difference between you and what Moore allegedly is then?

Also you just suggested your opinion was to be considered right. Moore never said that. You call it "liberal bullshit", yet you dont know what point the "liberal" director is tryina get across or how. Youre truly prejudiced IMO
 

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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2004, 09:58:56 AM »
Moore asks simple questions, he asks why are we so violent? yes, we do have a violent history, but countries like Germany, Britain, Japan etc etc have an even more violent history...but what are their murder by gun rates? like 100 a year, japan like 23....but AMERICA? 11,000....


The blame-America-firsters such as stupid white man Michael Moore try to depict the United States as a hotbed of murder and violence, but this time they're wronger than usual.

South Africa is the world's bloodiest nation, The Economist notes, with a shocking 114.8 murders for each 100,000 people, compared to only six in the U.S. and two in Japan, according to Interpol.

More than 21,000 South Africans were killed last year, "worse than some war zones."

Other countries that outkilled the U.S. on Interpol's list aren't a surprise: Brazil, Russia, Botswana, Zambia, Angola.

But here's one that might startle you: Sweden, supposedly the land of granola-munching socialist peaceniks, had 10 murders for every 100,000 people. Yes, Sweden is branching out and is no longer just Suicide Central.

 

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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2004, 10:51:48 AM »
Moore asks simple questions, he asks why are we so violent? yes, we do have a violent history, but countries like Germany, Britain, Japan etc etc have an even more violent history...but what are their murder by gun rates? like 100 a year, japan like 23....but AMERICA? 11,000....


The blame-America-firsters such as stupid white man Michael Moore try to depict the United States as a hotbed of murder and violence, but this time they're wronger than usual.

South Africa is the world's bloodiest nation, The Economist notes, with a shocking 114.8 murders for each 100,000 people, compared to only six in the U.S. and two in Japan, according to Interpol.

More than 21,000 South Africans were killed last year, "worse than some war zones."

Other countries that outkilled the U.S. on Interpol's list aren't a surprise: Brazil, Russia, Botswana, Zambia, Angola.

But here's one that might startle you: Sweden, supposedly the land of granola-munching socialist peaceniks, had 10 murders for every 100,000 people. Yes, Sweden is branching out and is no longer just Suicide Central.



Lol, you wrote that? Sounds almost like an article
Dont forget to take into consideration America is supposed to be a civilized country, which these weird African and Latin-America ones definitly arent, lol.
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2004, 04:18:43 PM »
South Africa is the world's bloodiest nation, The Economist notes, with a shocking 114.8 murders for each 100,000 people, compared to only six in the U.S. and two in Japan, according to Interpol.

More than 21,000 South Africans were killed last year, "worse than some war zones."

Other countries that outkilled the U.S. on Interpol's list aren't a surprise: Brazil, Russia, Botswana, Zambia, Angola.

Yeah but I don't think he says the US got the highest crime rate of all, but considerin there's about 200 countries in the whole world out of which many got more poverty than the US, 7 countries with worse stats ain't that great