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Gang Starr - Who Got Gunz: dissing Bad Boy, Puffy??
SGV:
If it's a 'P', he probably says "Pa." As in Papi. But, it AIN'T Paul.
You would be dissing yourself if you're dissing the same artists you're collabing with.
And, no, there is no disrespect in that line. People read into things WAY too much.
W-Side:
It's a p. I can't tell for sure that he's saying Paul but neither can u that he ain't and since he obiously doesn't care what Fab thinks anyway (if he did he wouldn't basically call him a fake g in the interview) I don't see why he couldn't have said 'Paul'
I think as long as he doesn't act like they real when collaborating with them (for instance saying sth like "me and the G'd up homie Fabolous...") he's not dissing himself.. he openly tells what he thinks about him, if the guy still wants to help him out by putting him on his album that's his thang/problem.. imo
Jome:
--- Quote from: SGV on May 10, 2004, 12:10:13 AM ---Chino stated that before Pac died. :-X
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Whatever, he could have gotten afraid or something..
If I said "You tricks getting beat up in gay clubs like SGV", then that would NOT be a diss to you, but clever wordplay.. ?
--- Quote from: S-N-Double-O-P on May 10, 2004, 08:11:26 AM ---
if anybody's not hearin it right it's you cause one can clearly hear him saying "P".. there's no way he's sayin "aaw"..
+ Fame dissed him in an interview too when saying he didn't check the og cause he only likes gangsta shit which is pretty disrespectful considering that Fabolous is singing "ya know who keepin it gangsta" and talking about him being a g on the whole track
so yet again.. would he diss somebody he collaborated with before?
-yes
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Yup.
--- Quote from: SGV on May 10, 2004, 11:24:23 AM ---You would be dissing yourself if you're dissing the same artists you're collabing with.
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Hahahaha.
50 collaboed with Justin Timberlake cuz he had a hot Timbaland beat, and then called Justin pussywhipped or something similar..
M.O.P. got on a pretty hot beat more or less destined for them to be on, since it was called "Keeping it gangsta", and then went to say that they don't check for Fabolous, since they only check gangstashit..
E40 did tracks with Justin Timberlake, Chingy, Nelly, Murphy Lee, and even Nick Cannon!!
Would he be dissing himself if he make disrespectful remarks to one of them.. ??
If he was dissing one of the tracks himself was featured on, yes, otherwise, probably not.
E.g. if 40 said "St.Lunatics album was shitty" would that be a diss to himself.. ?
SGV:
--- Quote from: Jome on May 10, 2004, 05:29:08 PM ---
Whatever, he could have gotten afraid or something..
If I said "You tricks getting beat up in gay clubs like SGV", then that would NOT be a diss to you, but clever wordplay.. ?
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LOL @ he could've gotten afraid. Horrible reasoning.
If you could give me a better example then maybe I'd agree with you, but that was a horrible attempt at writing a hot line. Just because someone's name is stated, that doesn't automatically mean they're getting dissed.
--- Quote from: Jome on May 10, 2004, 05:29:08 PM ---
Hahahaha.
50 collaboed with Justin Timberlake cuz he had a hot Timbaland beat, and then called Justin pussywhipped or something similar..
M.O.P. got on a pretty hot beat more or less destined for them to be on, since it was called "Keeping it gangsta", and then went to say that they don't check for Fabolous, since they only check gangstashit..
E40 did tracks with Justin Timberlake, Chingy, Nelly, Murphy Lee, and even Nick Cannon!!
Would he be dissing himself if he make disrespectful remarks to one of them.. ??
If he was dissing one of the tracks himself was featured on, yes, otherwise, probably not.
E.g. if 40 said "St.Lunatics album was shitty" would that be a diss to himself.. ?
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50 and E-40 hardly collabed with Justin. They busted verses on his beat. Justin collabed with The Clipse, Neptunes, Bubba Sparxxx, those were collabs. Horrible perception Jome. M.O.P. dissing someone for not being gangsta, yet being on a track where they claim to be gangsta is contradicting. On one hand the MO-Pz are co-signing "Yea, Fab and Cain are G's." Then they turn around and say "Na, you're not a G." Hence, they're making themselves look dumb.
LMAO @ EVEN NICK CANNON! What is that supposed to mean? Nick Cannon has collabed with R.Kelly(he collabed with Jay-Z, Cash Money, Biggie), Busta Rhymes(he collabed with 50...), Fat Joe(he collabed with KRS-One), etc. LMAO @ You.
That's like saying, 50 collabed with Missy, Lil Kim, even JOE! ::)
Now, about your example. 40 saying "The St. Lunatics album sucked," that's not making himself look dumb. He never collabed with them 1, and 2, he had nothing to do with the album. Now, if he hopped on Nelly's song and said "This song sucks!" Then he'd be clowning himself.
Jome:
--- Quote from: SGV on May 10, 2004, 07:51:37 PM ---LOL @ he could've gotten afraid. Horrible reasoning.
If you could give me a better example then maybe I'd agree with you, but that was a horrible attempt at writing a hot line. Just because someone's name is stated, that doesn't automatically mean they're getting dissed.
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Of course he could have gotten afraid, maybe he regret it or they squared up or something..
The example was good, I wasn't trying to make a hot line, but simple so you would get the point.
You use "Pac got fucked in jail" as a metaphor, you're dissing him, period!!!!
(Unless Pac pose in magazines "Pac reveals: I got raped in jail".. like a rapper would do that)
--- Quote from: SGV on May 10, 2004, 07:51:37 PM ---50 and E-40 hardly collabed with Justin. They busted verses on his beat. Justin collabed with The Clipse, Neptunes, Bubba Sparxxx, those were collabs. Horrible perception Jome. M.O.P. dissing someone for not being gangsta, yet being on a track where they claim to be gangsta is contradicting. On one hand the MO-Pz are co-signing "Yea, Fab and Cain are G's." Then they turn around and say "Na, you're not a G." Hence, they're making themselves look dumb.
LMAO @ EVEN NICK CANNON! What is that supposed to mean? Nick Cannon has collabed with R.Kelly(he collabed with Jay-Z, Cash Money, Biggie), Busta Rhymes(he collabed with 50...), Fat Joe(he collabed with KRS-One), etc. LMAO @ You.
That's like saying, 50 collabed with Missy, Lil Kim, even JOE! ::)
Now, about your example. 40 saying "The St. Lunatics album sucked," that's not making himself look dumb. He never collabed with them 1, and 2, he had nothing to do with the album. Now, if he hopped on Nelly's song and said "This song sucks!" Then he'd be clowning himself.
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Horrible arguments..
Missy & Lil Kim is far more hiphop than Nick Cannon.
Isn't Nelly & Murphy Lee part of St.Lunatics.. ?? ::)
Dissing the wannabe gangsta you're collabing with on the same track (or talking about the track in interviews) is gangsta, end of story.
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