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Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq
JTSimon:
--- Quote from: SMiLE on May 11, 2004, 01:38:23 PM ---The only reason we're helping them is because if we leave them over there to wallow in their own shit, they eventually try to come over here and attack us. So the only way we can keep them from being dumbasses is to go over there and hold their hand like little fucking children. They're not civilized. You don't see Europeans going around bombing the fuck out of each other... that's because they're civilized. These fuckers over in the middle east still live in caves, wipe their ass with their hands, and still haven't learned how to live together without attacking each other. So, we have to attack them before they attack us. I wish we'd just level the place, and stop sending ours over to get killed. Fuck these people. They want to attack us, talk shit about us on t.v., help train terrorists, kill their own, etc.... we ought to just rid the world of the problem, instead of bringing the problem to us.
If You Can't Settle It.... Level It.
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You don't see Europeans going around bombing the fuck out of each other... that's because they're civilized.
IRA - Irish Republican Army ::)
Yeah Al Queda attacked the WTC on 9/11 because they were bored.
Maestro Minded:
i cant say i did not see this one coming....
you cant torture innocent humans where there are radical groups and expect them to do nothing...
7even:
--- Quote from: rampant on May 11, 2004, 01:48:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on May 11, 2004, 01:39:47 PM ---you dont help these people. you kill, rape, humiliate, torture, disposses and exploit them.
why do you do that? have they done anything to you in the first place? no.
but why do they kill you? retaliation. you attacked them before for no reason.
did they attack you before you killed, raped, humiliated, tortured, dispossesed and exploited them? no.
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You know what pisses me off about you?
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so yea we tied a leash to an iraqi, but DID WE FUCKING BEHEAD HIM??????
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ok.
First, would you consider it helping if you see a guy is punched be a bigger guy - and you kill the bigger guy who punches the other guy. But after that, you punch the guy youre "helping" just like the guy before you did, earning some money with every punch.
I dont consider that helping. I consider it taking advantage without improving anyones situation but yours.
For those who dont get it:
You = USA
Bigger Guy = Saddam
other guy = Iraq
money = oil and shit
Second, yes, beheading an maybe innocent civilian - you gotta be a fuckin animal, but so are the US Soldiers. They are the ones to blame for this tragic incident. You cant humilate those Iraqis and publicate it (look at the irony which cwalker pointed out etc) and expect to get away with it. The killing of this man is not justified, since he wasnt the one who did that naughty atrocities (as I assume). But it's symbolically justified. These animals are at least understandable as they retaliate for some apparant reason. The US-Animals arent, cause they acted like this without any apparant reason, hell, like you said, the whole war is started and executed without an apparant reason.
my 2 cents,
Harbinger
Montana00:
you guys are sick if you think this is justifed.
yea ok ill fly over there right now and they can put a leash on me while im naked.
but seriously that guy cant go home and see his family now, because some us soliders took pictures of prisoners naked. its just not right.
7even:
--- Quote from: rampant on May 11, 2004, 02:01:04 PM ---you guys are sick if you think this is justifed.
yea ok ill fly over there right now and they can put a leash on me while im naked.
but seriously that guy cant go home and see his family now, because some us soliders took pictures of prisoners naked. its just not right.
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thing is also, I really doubt the things you talk about were the only things done to the Iraqis by US/British soldiers. I really really do. There's just to video/absolute proof out yet. But that doesnt mean it didnt happen, neither does it mean it wont be publicated sooner or later.
So for me, the only reason why it's not justified is that this man didnt do harm (as we all can only assume).
But, as I pointed out before, it's symbolically justified.
Besides, like I also said before, the US have to blame that on their own kind. You cant do such a war with such methods in such a country and expect nothing will get back to you.
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