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Israel carrying out 1 of its largest and bloodiest operations in Gaza since 1967
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on May 21, 2004, 09:02:17 AM ---thats bullshit your trying to argue they don't deserve the land so thats why ur taking it,even tho its theres by rights, and especially with this wall ur biulding to make sure palestinians can't even go anywhere near what ust to be theirs. ur so brainwashed by your extreme right wing government, you think they are acting in good when really they are just pure evil. and u seem to keep bringing up the one time Ehud Barak offering a peace deal ok it fell thru but look at the present deal which wasn't even negotiated with the palestinians to give back hardly any land but even worse still ur government rejected cos it on the grounds that it was too generous. you country pays no respect to international law or the UN and by all rights should be isolated from the international community at the very least till it gets it act together.
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oh yea sure, international law, I guess the international law does not include paragraphs about exploding buses and killing incocent people, it uses the term incocents only to describe a "crazed mass of killers" that throw hate demonstrations, why should Israel give up any land now, after they fucked up Oslo, after they fucked up Camp David, why should we give and give while Israeli Cevillians are being slautered, Im the brainwashed one? sure man, Im the brainwashed one, while those Palestinian Kids that undergo psychotropic brainwashing methods throughout their school years to later become suicide bombers in schools founded by money that could've been used to build proper infrastructure is just common education(money that by the way actually came for the most part from europe), sure that's not brainwashing, the training camps for underaged killers isn't something the international law would like to adress?-
Don Rizzle:
answer me these questions
1)who has lost more lives during this conflict
2)who has lost more land or their homes destroyed
3)what country has had the most disruptions to their normal life?
and another thing u talk about terrorists who don't act on orders from governemnt when the Israeli army will happily shoot at unarmed toddlers who pose no threat and fire tank shells into crowds of people whilst you buldozer their homes to the ground leaving 1600 people homeless in just 3 days and u wonder why they hate you guys. there would have never of been this problem if israel never sought to increase in size by invading all its neighbours, the jews quickly forgot how the nazi's treated them and have no problem in doing similar stuff to other people. and to think i have relatives who thaught and died to save the jews, we even gave you ur own country although i don't we shud have (times and attitudes have changed it wouldnt happen the way it did now), but jews are just greedy muthafuckaz there is no other way to look at it.
King Tech Quadafi:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on May 23, 2004, 09:30:51 AM ---
oh yea sure, international law, I guess the international law does not include paragraphs about exploding buses and killing incocent people
THIS IS A COMMON METHOD OF CHANGING THE SUBJECT. NO NO, FORGET THE FACT THAT WE BASICALLY HAVE COLLECTIVELY SHIT ON THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, NO NO, REMEMBER THE BLOWN UP BUS IN EAST JERUSALEM. (WHERE WE SHOULDNT BE IN THE 1ST PLACE ::))
it uses the term incocents only to describe a "crazed mass of killers" that throw hate demonstrations, why should Israel give up any land now
BECAUSE THIS ISNT YOUR LAND!!???!!
, after they fucked up Oslo,
THE FACT THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, NOT ONLY WERE THE ISRAELIS NOT SERIOUS ABOUT LEAVING THE OCCUPIED TERRITORIES, BUT WERE CONTINUING TO EXPAND SETTLEMENTS KILLED ANY CHANCE OF A LASTING PEACE. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT TO MOVE AGAINST HAMAS, WHEN THE PALESTINIANS ARE STARING DOWN THE BARREL OF AN UZI?
after they fucked up Camp David,
NO, REFUSING TO NEGOTIATE THE RIGHT OF RETURN AND OFFERING A FRAGMENTED, PUZZLE PIECE SEMI STATE CUT UP BY ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS AND ROADS, WITH A FOREIGN POLICY CONTROLLED BY ISRAEL IS WHAT FUCKED UP CAMP DAVID.
why should we give and give while Israeli Cevillians are being slautered, Im the brainwashed one?
YES. YOU ARE. YOU LOOK AT A PALESTINIAN LIKE STROM THURMOND LOOKED AT BLACKS IN THE 40'S. YOU DESPISE THE GOYIM AND THINK HIS LIFE IRRELEVENT AND WITHOUT WORTH. THATS WHY THE CITIZENS OF THE "JEWISH STATE" HAVE COLLECTIVELY ACCEPTED THE SUBJAGATION OF THE PALESTINIANS WITHOUT A DOUBT. THEY MEAN NOTHING TO YOU.
sure man, Im the brainwashed one, while those Palestinian Kids that undergo psychotropic brainwashing methods throughout their school years to later become suicide bombers
LET ME ASK U A QUESTION. DO U HONESTLY BELIEVE THE FACT THAT YOU OCCUPY PALESTINIAN LAND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A PALESTINIAN TEEN HATING U?????
in schools founded by money that could've been used to build proper infrastructure is just common education(money that by the way actually came for the most part from europe), sure that's not brainwashing, the training camps for underaged killers isn't something the international law would like to adress?-
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I TO DA GEEZY:
to answer your questions first:
1. sure, if u count the suicide bombers, plus the active terrorists that are being assasinated by Israel, there is no need to speculate....I'll ask u a diff question , which side has lost more inocent lives(by that I don't mean those masses of crazed radicals ready to lynch any jew in the radius of a mile), I mean people that don't have any connection to millitarry forces at the moment of death.
2.Israelis don't get their homes destroyed thank god, terrorists on the other hand do, as for the Land, Israel gave up the biggest percentage of it's territory for the sake of peace, like no other country has ever done.
3. Israel of course, the Palestinian authority is far from having a stable normal life even without it's conflict with Israel my arguments about it's crooked leadership and the general opinion of the arab world as for the Palestinians are just the smallest example, not to mention the fact the authority is far from being a country in any standarts....
now let me ask u and u too Tech, a number of things:
1. Tech u spoke about changing the subject, how would u call what u do everytime I mention the Camp David isue, fact is Israel was willing to fullfill 97% of the demand, formally, by signing a paper that would force this plan to come to place,or else....bla bla "Israel was never serious....." how tha fuck can u massure that?....that's how things are done politiclly -->they sign papers....yea of course if u identify that much with the palestinians your respect for these type of agreements must be minimal(see Oslo).
2.U claim there is a justification for the Palestinians fucking up Oslo by saying "this is not Israel's Land" if they thought so, why the hell did they agree to it in the first place, don't u think there is a contrediction?- fact is it's not a contrediction, they planed it all the way through, we agree to this-get worldwide recognition- get support money- get weapons and than when they think everything is cool and least expect it- we find some lame excuse and atack them.
3.Controling their foreign affairs?....retroactivelly could be a very good idea, not only to control their foreign affairs, but also to formally restrict them, episodes like Karin A is just one of many examples to why such restrictions should've been put, A Palestinian State
that would not like to co exist in total trust with it's closest neighbour state has deffenatlly something to hide....and considering the fact the Palestinian authority did not recognize the existance of a Jewish State up untill not so long ago(->Oslo...which failed) such state could threat our existance.
4. u think that by using the word Goyim u suddenlly make a great amount of sence in showing Im brainwashed, u're deeply mistaken....Israel was never in a hold of rasial hate towards Palestinians cause of the simple fact of them being Palestinians, this sounds more like what those brainwashed Palestinian teens study in their schools "itbah el yahud" typa shit, and by the way u ended your post Don Rizzle by saying(and I quote) " jews are just greedy muthafuckaz there is no other way to look at it. " it makes me think u feat this profile much more than myself or may be even Tech as well.
Don Rizzle:
--- Quote ---Posted by: I TO DA GEEZY Posted on: Yesterday at 06:24:09pm
to answer your questions first:
1. sure, if u count the suicide bombers, plus the active terrorists that are being assasinated by Israel, there is no need to speculate....I'll ask u a diff question , which side has lost more inocent lives(by that I don't mean those masses of crazed radicals ready to lynch any jew in the radius of a mile), I mean people that don't have any connection to millitarry forces at the moment of death.
2.Israelis don't get their homes destroyed thank god, terrorists on the other hand do, as for the Land, Israel gave up the biggest percentage of it's territory for the sake of peace, like no other country has ever done.
3. Israel of course, the Palestinian authority is far from having a stable normal life even without it's conflict with Israel my arguments about it's crooked leadership and the general opinion of the arab world as for the Palestinians are just the smallest example, not to mention the fact the authority is far from being a country in any standarts....
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1 u seem to think all of palestine are terrorists
2 talk about giving up land? we gave up our whole fucking empire whilst others thaught to keep theirs*Cough*france*cough*, we gave up our rule over half the world which ironically included palestine which is why u have it now.
3 bullshit how can palestinians possibly live a normal life, the way israel bullys and restricts them
ur questions
1 don't know too much about past agreements i'll leave that to u and tech
2 do u think the palestinians really wanted to fuck up the peace process and stay opressed by the israel? i don't think so.
3 israel can't even handle their own foreign affairs within international law why should they be put incharge of another country's? and you wonder why they don't want to co-exist? it baffles me that you bring that up after israel has stolen land from palestine and used force to keep it in their possession, would you want to co exist with them if the tables were turned? but u can see that so u built a wall to shut them out, but heres the genious part cos israel built it on palestinian land further extending extending israel's borders. anopther thing u said they didn't even recognise israel as state, what do u expect cos israel was taken from by force in the first place.
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