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Religion: Why is it Needed?
NobodyButMe:
yo man, short history of my life:
after growing up with no religion, it really became a part of my life when i moved away to college. i had nowhere to turn, and i was alone and scared. i turned to religion and it gave me strength and confidence. it gave me a purpose for life. it gave me a feeling that i was finally doing something. it gave me a feeling that i was an incredibly righteous human being. it gave me security, and it gave me a meaning to life.
but about 2 years into it, with much solitary thought and study, i found that no matter how hard i wanted to or how hard i tried, i couldn't believe. it just didn't make sense to me anymore. i found that all religious people seem to live the exact same as non-religious people, they just take different action. but they still drive cars, polluting the environment; they still buy houses, cutting down trees and releasing harmful gasses into the air; they still eat fake processed food; they still talk like everyone else (except for their complex set of culturally relevant words and phrases); they still contribute to capitalism (just go to any religious books store and attempt to justify the things they are capitalizing on)they still create division between the human race by dividing us into 'saved' or 'converted' as opposed to 'not saved' or 'still living in sin' etc.; they still believe in something that is not tangible; they cook, clean, eat, sleep, and live almost the exact same way as everybody else.
don't think that i'm trying to sound justified. i know i do shit that fucks up the environment, and add to division, and add to capitalism. the only difference is that now, i don't know what to believe. i don't claim any belief in anything really. i've noticed that most people that are incredibly sure of something, they don't really see the big picture. i feel like if you see the big picture, you don't have to push your views on anybody else and you don't have to voice your opinion if you're securely sure about it.
i'm not knocking religious people, i'm knocking people that feel they know what's best for everybody else. don't nobody know what kind of person i am, how the fuck are they going to tell me what i need in my life?
trauma said that it just 'is'. it's true. it just 'is'. it sucks because over our human history, we're still doing the same shit as we were when we first started with religion. we're still killing each other to get our point across. we're still acting like we haven't learned shit.....and it just 'is.' human nature, it looks like, (sadly), is never going to change.
now, to answer the main question:
to me, at one point in my life, religion was something i needed to feel secure and sure in something when i was scared in my life. it did a lot for me, and i don't regret a minute of it. i feel like i learned a lot and broadened my horizons to see (what i believe to be) the big picture. plus, not many people have tried to give themselves completely to something. and i did when i was religious. but i look at it as a learning experience and i'm glad i went through with it until the (sad and harsh) end.
if you've read this far, holla at me on AIM: JTPLATNUM1
JTSimon:
Screw religion.
white Boy:
--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on May 19, 2004, 04:27:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: Overseer on May 19, 2004, 03:08:03 PM ---
its there to keep people in line
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+to control, repress, exploit, fool them
read Karl Marx and Nietzsche.. they on point:
Is man one of God's blunders or is God one of man's blunders?
I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one great instinct for revenge for which no expedient is sufficiently poisonous, secret, subterranean, petty -- I call it the one mortal blemish of mankind.
the same people wrote the bible that thought the world was flat.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."
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yep... also religion is there, becasue humans cant accept no god, (not saying there is or isnt), but they just cant accept it if its not there. If humans knew, AS A FACT, (hypotheticaly), that there was no god, heaven hell, no afterlife, when u die u die, theyt wouldnt be able to take it, the human race accomidates death with living happily ever after with god in heaven for eternity... :-\....
infinite59:
--- Quote from: rampant on May 19, 2004, 03:26:39 PM ---
please if you would like to explain what ive posted please do id like to hear an explanation. Although i dont know how "fight them, allah will punish nonbelievers through you" could be misinterpreted.
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Those verses you quoted were taken totally out of context. You have to read the verses immediately before and immediately after to put it in perspective. Not only that, but you have to understand that many times the Qu'ran is reffering to specific event and a specific people. Why didn't you quote the verses that say, "And if they fight you not in the path of Allah, then establish peaceful relationships with them". There are many verses indicating that Muslims are only aloud to fight if it is against oppression and tyranny, they are not aloud to fight someone just because they are not Muslim, the Qu'ran states, "There is no compulsion in religion."
You should read the whole Qu'ran instead of just pulling a few verses out of context that you found on an anti-Islamic website.
Lincoln:
--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on May 20, 2004, 04:27:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: rampant on May 19, 2004, 03:26:39 PM ---
please if you would like to explain what ive posted please do id like to hear an explanation. Although i dont know how "fight them, allah will punish nonbelievers through you" could be misinterpreted.
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Those verses you quoted were taken totally out of context. You have to read the verses immediately before and immediately after to put it in perspective. Not only that, but you have to understand that many times the Qu'ran is reffering to specific event and a specific people. Why didn't you quote the verses that say, "And if they fight you not in the path of Allah, then establish peaceful relationships with them". There are many verses indicating that Muslims are only aloud to fight if it is against oppression and tyranny, they are not aloud to fight someone just because they are not Muslim, the Qu'ran states, "There is no compulsion in religion."
You should read the whole Qu'ran instead of just pulling a few verses out of context that you found on an anti-Islamic website.
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Said it before I could. People need to understand that parts of the Qu'ran were revealed while Mohammed (PBUH) was at war with the Pagans.
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