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Let's tell the truth about Ronald Reagan

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Primo:
Welfare does need reform..It needs stricter rules and regulations. I think there should be case workers to see what they are spending on. They should have investigators so they don't give it to people who are crackheads and herion addicts. Welfare should be for people with a disability and are unable to work physically. I also believe welfare should be for Single Mothers who have 4 kids and works 2 jobs and still can't feed her kids..............Here is a perfect true life example.  My next door neighbor does not work. She collects and spends all her umemployment check on Crack. She has a 9 year old daughter. Instead of paying bills and buying food she basically smokes the money. They go to soup kitchens and food banks to eat. That shit makes me sick. These people should be left to ROT.

Real American:

--- Quote from: Hajj Ibrahim Islam on June 07, 2004, 07:12:42 AM ---If your one of the top 1% money earners in America, and you control most of what goes on in the government and media, then you would love Reagan.  He was a great actor, and a great tool for the wealthiest class of people.  

Among his accomplishments:

-Vetoing a bill that would of punished the white South African government with sanctions for it's practice of aparthied against the majority black.

-Made the rich richer, and the poor poorer, widening the gap and more deeply dividing America.

-Cutting welfare, after school programs, and assistance to the poor.  When the poor and jobless responded angrily he biult more prisons for them.

-Turned the word "welfare" into a bad word.  Made people believe that taxes were high because of welfare reciepients wanting handouts.  Turning the middle class against the poor class.  When infact, taxes are high because the largest chunk of that money is going to steadily increase the size of the military.

-Supporting minority rebel movements in Guatamala and other South American countries we had no business being in.

-The Berlin wall fell inspite of Ronald Reagan and not becuase of Ronald Reagan.  The arms race of the cold war only retarded the situation.

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I don't know why I am even responding to this post, because Ibrahim is only trying to get everyone riled up with his shock value posts. But I guess it cuts close to home for me, considering that my grandparents and father lived under the oppression of communism in Poland. They knew firsthand just how evil that system is, and that is why growing up I was taught by them what a great man Ronald Reagan was. People in Eastern Europe have so much love and gratitude towards him. The fact that president Reagan was able to help bring an end to the Soviet Union and the Iron Curtain without firing a single shot makes him without a doubt one of the greatest presidents in American history.

As for everything you posted, it is complete BS. How come you always bash America for enforcing sanctions against Iraq, saying that they unfairly hurt Iraqi civilains. But then you go and bash Reagan for not having sanctions against South Africa. So are you for or against sanctions against evil governments, or do you just pick and choose in order to bash whoever is president? And regarding welfare, the welfare system back during the 1980's actually increased, not decreased, poverty. The system back then actually encouraged people to be poor and have more kids. We had poor people having baby after baby in order for their welfare checks to increase, regardless of the fact that they couldn't afford to take care of them. That is obviously not a system that is conducve to improving standards of life. Thankfully the Republicans took measures to reform welfare.

In conclusion, Ibrahim is a moron.

Real American:

--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on June 07, 2004, 04:29:51 PM ---infinite, let the americans mourn their leader, we could sit here all day exposing how little the reagans of the world gave a fuck about the smerluses or the englewoods, but they aint tryin to hear it.


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You should be mourning him considering he backed the Afghans against the Soviet invasion.

mauzip:


--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on June 07, 2004, 04:29:51 PM ---infinite, let the americans mourn their leader, we could sit here all day exposing how little the reagans of the world gave a fuck about the smerluses or the englewoods, but they aint tryin to hear it.


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M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: smerlus on June 07, 2004, 04:33:26 PM ---more comments from the muslim peanut gallery.. you are some bitches blaming people for your short commings

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What about a catholic commenting.

Jay-Z commented once on being a product of Reagonomics. Lets face it, under Reagon, the United States trend of closing the gap between rich and poor started closing. Before Reagon, since World War II, the United States was in a stage were poor was starting to gain money, and become middle class. The whole rich always get richer argument, was being crushed by the United States, which is one reason we were a great nations, we were breaking norms. Anyways, Reagon, his plan was to give the rich tax cuts, because if the rich have more money, they'd spend it on their companies. Well this did not hold true, but both middle and higher classes got tax cuts, so both classes thrived, BUT, the once surging working class took a huge hit, and this started the trend, rich getting richer, poor getting poorer. Now of course you did have our crack heads, but you also had people like my dad, who worked his whole life, is a Vietnam Vet, and he had his vet benefits taken away by Ronald Reagon, for the sake of higher class tax cuts, Reagon took away Veterans rights, and no one argueed because Reagon was popular, and people didn't like Vietnam vets anyways. So my dad had no more Veterans benefits, which is really starting to cost him now that his older, and he had lost his job because he got divorced, and he had to raise my sister and me by himself. Welfare was not that much, so he took welfare, and still worked jobs along the way, and never had enough  money. Reagon wanted his trickled down economy to work, after all, most economicalist believed the plan would work. If you remember when Bill Clinton took over, he redid the tax bracket so that rich once again get higher tax rates than working class. under Reagon, the rich got taxed like 10% well middle 20%, and working class 30%, or close to those numbers. I had exact numbers, but I am too lazy to go find them. Anyways, for his work, Reagon spend his last 10 years not remembering his name, not knowing where the bathroom was, and not remembering he was president. All I can say was, it couldn't have happen to a better man.

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