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I can't even read this board anymore... what the hell is wrong with some of ya

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Smoke:

--- Quote from: 7even the Harbinger on June 16, 2004, 10:31:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: Antonio on June 16, 2004, 10:06:18 AM ---Anyway you all aint getting the point. Being a free country doesnt mean to be without laws/rules. It means to be free to MAKE them rules. And in the USA, just like in a lot of other countries, you are free to vote your presidents and to choose your destiny. That means being a free country.
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No, that just means democracy. 'Democracy' in a country reigned be Republicans instead of Democrats. :D


without rules.. that would be anarchy.

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I disagree. Democracy means another thing: it means the direct order from people to politicians to make rules. In various forms (it's too long to explain, and expecially it's quite hard for me to do it in english). Anyway what i mean is that there's no freedom without rules and jail. You dont have to look at the freedom of 1 PERSON, but of the whole community. What's better for the community? Cause very often it aint the best thing for 1 person only. Sorry if it aint clear, but i've read books and books about it at Uni, and expecially i'm italian, it's a lil bit complicated for me to write it all in english. Anyway yeah, the point is that there's no freedom without rules. Democracy is a way to make them rules.

smerlus:

--- Quote from: smerlus on June 16, 2004, 10:42:48 AM ---you complain that it's stupid for americans to say how free they are and then you use three weak examples of how we are "less free"?

then you have to be really stupid

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this still stands...

so we are less free than you because you say so?

i can go to a nude beach, strip club, rent porno or watch a movie on cable when ever i want....

i could go to the store, buy some tequila, go to my girlfriends house and get her 18 year old twin sisters drunk...and since it's in their own house....no cops can do anything to them...only thing they can't do is purchase it

and 3...i'd rather get the chair for tax evasion than get butt raped for the next 8 years...so the death penalty is pretty good

there goes your 3 awesome reasons why we're "less free" broken down ebven though this whole arguement is similar to the elemntary "my dad can beat your dad"

7even:
it's all good smerlus, Im not trying to persuade you of anything.
all I wanna do is to state my opinion and give other fellow boardusers the chance to learn from what they've read and appreciate it.
if you use that chance or if you just let it slip ... that's up to you. you live in a free country. it's your decision.

Primo:
I agree with smerlus. Those are very stupid reasons to say we aint free. Did u even know that the drinking age was 18 then they changed it to 19 I believe then 21. It could be because in places in Europe alot of people use public transportation I.E subway/bus.And I noticed people in Europe usually wait alot longer to get a car .. Most people in America by the time they are 16 and a half have a car. Our drinkin age could have been raised because of the drunk driving deaths. The TV stuff is self explainitory. Do you really want your kids to look at a girls titties on a show or people fucking when they are too young to see that stuff. Thats why we have cable channels and digital cable with over 400 channels if we want to see that stuff.

Name something significant besides drinking that you can do in Europe than you couldn't do in the US.

smerlus:
i don't know if it's because i was able to drink legally when i was 18....or the fact that i can drink legally now and the highschool football team can't...but here's how i see the whole drinking thing....

the people can't even follow the rule NOT to drink under a certain age...so should we give them the privilage to drink when they're not even mature enough to respect the law?

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