Can we stop the jordan an kobe comparisons for now

[Montana00]

you guys are so fucking stupid.

you honestly think kobe has no part in the lakers?

him and shaq are 50/50 in the reasons lakers win. have you guys ever watched a lakers game? he doesnt usually do that bad. usually hes awesome. dont judge him by just the finals series.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

^^You are one fuckin' idiot for saying Kobe is more comparable to Pippen...Shawn Marion is comparable to Pippen, not Kobe, you fuckin moron.


You will all see in the near future- quote me on that

I just wanna say this has nothing to do with what happened last night, I always thought Kobe was great but never legendary. He will never carry a team to the championship as the marquee guy, and time will prove this.


And don't put down Pippen, he was a very important aspect to the Bulls (much like Kobe was with LA), he just wasn't the key to their victories. You can call me a "fuckin moron" all you want but if you seriously think that Shaq was not the main reason LA won those three championships then you need help.


If Kobe's the reason LA won those championships, then Dwight Clark's the reason the 49ers beat the Cowboys in '81, and that Joe Montana guy is just the one that threw the ball to him. Or better yet Robert Parrish is the only reason Larry Bird ever won anything.

How long have even been watching sports?

Without Shaq the Lakers wouldn't have won, but without Kobe the Lakers wouldn't have won either...So check yourself, man.

[pappy]

^^You are one fuckin' idiot for saying Kobe is more comparable to Pippen...Shawn Marion is comparable to Pippen, not Kobe, you fuckin moron.


You will all see in the near future- quote me on that

GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE... MARION.... PLEASE.... NIK PLEASE DONT EVER EVER EVER EVEVEVEVEVEVEVEERERERERERERER SPEAK ON BASKETBALL AGAIN B/C YOU ARE THE FUCKIN MORON HERE.  THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT  SAY BACK IN PIPPENS HEYDAY HE WAS THE SECOND BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE BEHIND MJ.  NIK PLEASE JUST STFU RIGHT NOW.  MARION IS A GOOD PLAYER BUT HE AINT EVEN TOP 10 IN THE LEAGUE HE AINT EVEN TOP 15 AN YOU COMPARE HIM TO PIPPEN. PIPPEN IS A 50 GREATEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME.  NIK PLEASE DONT TALK ABOUT BASKETBALL AGAIN.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

^^You are one fuckin' idiot for saying Kobe is more comparable to Pippen...Shawn Marion is comparable to Pippen, not Kobe, you fuckin moron.


You will all see in the near future- quote me on that

GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE... MARION.... PLEASE.... NIK PLEASE DONT EVER EVER EVER EVEVEVEVEVEVEVEERERERERERERER SPEAK ON BASKETBALL AGAIN B/C YOU ARE THE FUCKIN MORON HERE.  THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT  SAY BACK IN PIPPENS HEYDAY HE WAS THE SECOND BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE BEHIND MJ.  NIK PLEASE JUST STFU RIGHT NOW.  MARION IS A GOOD PLAYER BUT HE AINT EVEN TOP 10 IN THE LEAGUE HE AINT EVEN TOP 15 AN YOU COMPARE HIM TO PIPPEN. PIPPEN IS A 50 GREATEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME.  NIK PLEASE DONT TALK ABOUT BASKETBALL AGAIN.

LMAO, you're retarded, go watch baseball...Anyone remember what happened to the Bulls when Jordan retired the first time? Yea, I remember it quite well...Put Pippen in his prime on the Suns instead of Shawn Marion, and see if there would be any difference...I highly doubt it. Pippen was the most overrated player of all time back in the Bulls glory days, anyone who knows basketball will tell you that...

[pappy]

^^You are one fuckin' idiot for saying Kobe is more comparable to Pippen...Shawn Marion is comparable to Pippen, not Kobe, you fuckin moron.


You will all see in the near future- quote me on that

GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE... MARION.... PLEASE.... NIK PLEASE DONT EVER EVER EVER EVEVEVEVEVEVEVEERERERERERERER SPEAK ON BASKETBALL AGAIN B/C YOU ARE THE FUCKIN MORON HERE.  THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT  SAY BACK IN PIPPENS HEYDAY HE WAS THE SECOND BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE BEHIND MJ.  NIK PLEASE JUST STFU RIGHT NOW.  MARION IS A GOOD PLAYER BUT HE AINT EVEN TOP 10 IN THE LEAGUE HE AINT EVEN TOP 15 AN YOU COMPARE HIM TO PIPPEN. PIPPEN IS A 50 GREATEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME.  NIK PLEASE DONT TALK ABOUT BASKETBALL AGAIN.

LMAO, you're retarded, go watch baseball...Anyone remember what happened to the Bulls when Jordan retired the first time? Yea, I remember it quite well...Put Pippen in his prime on the Suns instead of Shawn Marion, and see if there would be any difference...I highly doubt it. Pippen was the most overrated player of all time back in the Bulls glory days, anyone who knows basketball will tell you that...

yea i do remember what happened when jordan left the bulls.  On a weak team pippen single handly took them to the 2nd round of the playoffs.  Only to lose a game 7 to the knicks.  Yea i rememeber.  an what people that kno basketball will say pippen was overatted.  OK you think he is overatted but you said people that know basketball so there goes ur opinion on the matter.  And he must of dont something right to be in the 50 greatest players of all time.  NIK please stop it now.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Tom, isn't it baseball season? Get out of here...

Scottie Pippen:
Year  Team Mins  FG% 3P%  FT%  Reb  APG  SPG   BPG  TO    PPG
87-88 CHI  20.9  .463  .174  .576  3.80  2.1  1.15   .66  1.66    7.9
88-89 CHI  33.1  .476  .273  .668  6.10  3.5  1.90   .84  2.73  14.4
89-90 CHI  38.4  .489  .250  .675  6.70  5.4  2.57  1.23  3.39  16.5
90-91 CHI  36.8  .520  .309  .706  7.30  6.2  2.35  1.13  2.83  17.8
91-92 CHI  38.6  .506  .200  .760  7.70  7.0  1.89  1.13  3.09  21.0
92-93 CHI  38.6  .473  .237  .663  7.70  6.3  2.14    .90  3.04  18.6
93-94 CHI  38.3  .491 .320   .660  8.70  5.6  2.93    .81  3.22  22.0
94-95 CHI  38.2  .480  .345  .716  8.10  5.2  2.94  1.13  3.43  21.4
95-96 CHI  36.7  .463  .374  .679  6.40  5.9  1.73    .74  2.69  19.4
96-97 CHI  37.7  .474  .368  .701  6.50  5.7  1.88    .55  2.61  20.2
97-98 CHI  37.5  .447  .318  .777  5.20  5.8  1.80    .98  2.48  19.1

Shawn Marion:
Year  Team Mins FG%  3P%  FT% Reb  APG   SPG  BPG   TO    PPG
99-00 PHO  24.7  .471  .182  .847  6.5   1.4   .75  1.04  1.00  10.2
00-01 PHO  36.2  .480  .256  .810  10.7 2.0  1.67  1.37  1.63  17.3
01-02 PHO  38.4  .469  .393  .845  9.9   2.0  1.84  1.06  1.78  19.1
02-03 PHO  41.6  .452  .387  .851  9.5   2.4  2.28  1.17  1.94  21.2
03-04 PHO  40.7  .440  .340  .851  9.3   2.7  2.11  1.32  1.97  19.0


How can you even say they don't compare? Exit this thread immediately...

[pappy]

nik why do u keep sayin its baseball season when is chooled you plently of times on basketball while you still tryin 2.  get the fuck outta here

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

nik why do u keep sayin its baseball season when is chooled you plently of times on basketball while you still tryin 2.  get the fuck outta here

How did you school me? LMAO...I just posted up stats that are EASILY comparable, and that's the response you come up with? Get the fuck out of here, you don't know shit.

[DAYUM]

i think jordan is better but i do think if kobe can do taht good even when hes going through that court trial he can do better when hes not and he will get as big and good as jordan and they will be on the same ladder...

[teecee]

Well Kobe isnt on the level of SHaq, i DO thinks its safe to say he IS better than Pippen was (someone was saying otherwise)......it will be interesting to see how kobe does without shaq-  more shots, but also more double teams.  Cant wait to see, i'm thinking he'll lead the league in scoring for sure.  


NIK, as for comparing Pippen wioth Marion, its not even close as of now.  YOu cant just look only at numbers and compare people.  If you werent old enough to watch pippen or jordan, you likely have no idea how good they really were in their prime.  Numbers do not mean everything.  Besides, they play different types of games-  pippen was a point forward.Pippen did so many little things on the court, he was a great all around player.  Of course, i think marion is the shit and if you put him with kobe that would be incredible.  Kobe is gonna have to find some very unselfish but talented teammates if he wants to do what jordan did.....the reason pippen was so good is he knew his role.  He wasnt trying to be the man all the time, he understood his talents and played a very all around game.  

[teecee]

Another thing is, Kobe is averaging LESS assists, rebounds, and points than CHAUNCEY BILLUPS.  

How the fuck is Kobe only averaging 2 rebounds?  Say what you want about kobe's scoring, but 2 rebounds doesnt cut it............he is playing horrible, and the refs are not keeping  him from playing well, he just is sucking

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

NIK, as for comparing Pippen wioth Marion, its not even close as of now.  YOu cant just look only at numbers and compare people.  If you werent old enough to watch pippen or jordan, you likely have no idea how good they really were in their prime.  Numbers do not mean everything.  Besides, they play different types of games-  pippen was a point forward.Pippen did so many little things on the court, he was a great all around player.  Of course, i think marion is the shit and if you put him with kobe that would be incredible.  Kobe is gonna have to find some very unselfish but talented teammates if he wants to do what jordan did.....the reason pippen was so good is he knew his role.  He wasnt trying to be the man all the time, he understood his talents and played a very all around game.  

Thing is, I've watched Pippen and Jordan in their prime...I've basically been watching basketball since I was born...Don't get me wrong, Pippen was an outstanding player, but definitely not on the level of Kobe...Kobe has a few off games, and all of a sudden, he's just a good player...I'm sure no one was saying he was "just a good player" when he scored that 3 over Hamilton to send it to overtime, or any other one of his tremendous game winning shots he's had in the past...Whatever, we'll see when it's all said and done...PeACe

[KING VerbalAssaulta]

come on NIK...your shaun marion and pippen comparisons are a joke...pippen was no kobe...but he was damn close...he was top 10 nba player in his prime

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

come on NIK...your shaun marion and pippen comparisons are a joke...pippen was no kobe...but he was damn close...he was top 10 nba player in his prime

Shawn Marion is closer to Pipped than Kobe is...That's all I got to say about that...PeACe

[teecee]

Ya, the marion and pippen comparison is a joke, anyone can see that.  

As for Pippen vs. Kobe, i admit Kobe is much more capable of being the main guy on his team, or at least i think he is.  We will see next year.......I DO think Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best in the game.  WHo said he is merely good or average NIK?  He definitely looks average in the finals so far, shooting 40 percent and doing nothing but shooting wild shots, but im sure everyone knows he is great.  WHoever said his career will go like Penny's after this year is trippin.........