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Dre's motivation for firing Rakim.... ?
Rudeboy69:
i completely agree with SGV Is Hip Hop. this guy is well known. Yea theres buzz with 50 and the G-Unit... but Rakim has been buzzin' more than anyone in the game right now... read more about the history man...
PLANT:
I feel what you're saying SGV, but Dre's prolly looking at is like this:
Hes got artists like 50, Lloyd Banks, Game ect that are working there asses off, making tracks every day, showing up on radio, magazines, tv ect...Creating a buzz for themselves.
And then hes got Rakim, who is a legend in his own right, but Rakim is just sitting around back in New York prolly expecting Dre to just toss him an album full of beats and then hes out.
Now Dre is thinking why am I gonna give dude a) an album full of beats for nothing when dudes b) c) and d) are putting in mad work for my label and not only creating there own buzz, they are creating a buzz for myself aswell.
People (for the most part) who post on this board are knowledged hiphop heads who know about Rakim. But the majority of people buying albums today (ages say 12-20) dont know shit about Rakim, arent feeling him anymore, or think "wasnt he that guy way back then"...
Now this is no disrespect to Rakim in anyway, but I can understand why his album on Aftermath didnt drop.
Dip Set Movementarian 4 Life:
I think both Jome and SGV's points are both legit reasons...but i guess we wont know until Dre and Rakim both say the same thing...
Jome:
--- Quote from: SGV Is Hip Hop on June 14, 2004, 04:57:42 PM ---The Mixtapes, now, are for Up and comers and to generate buzz or to gain street cred. Ra is a Vet, his name along is a buzz and he has a GANG of street cred. He doesn't need the Mixtapes. I highly doubt that's the reason. I highly doubt Game funded his trip to NY. LMAO @ The thought of that. 1 call to the label and they'd fly him out. Rakim is a legend, what does he look like putting out tons of free material? People like 50, Banks, Game, Fab, Budden, etc. they're NOT legends. They still need that exposure. Ra has had his exposure. I just think him and Dre had different ideas. Dre probably wanted Ra on more commercialized tracks, while Ra more than likely wanted to keep it gutta.
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In many respects, Rakim is a newcomer again..
He has to start from scratch.
It's been 5 years since had a record out, and rap/hipop became 10 times bigger since then.
In those 5 years, he's been almost invisible.
--- Quote from: Rudeboy69 on June 14, 2004, 05:30:32 PM ---i completely agree with SGV Is Hip Hop. this guy is well known. Yea theres buzz with 50 and the G-Unit... but Rakim has been buzzin' more than anyone in the game right now... read more about the history man...
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WTF you talking about, the last buzz Rakim had was 5 years ago..
There's millions of millions of hiphop fans who don't even know who Rakim is.
The few thousand hardcore hiphop heads at forums know about him, but for Rakim to come out on Aftermath/Interscope, I doubt Dre/Iovine is happy about living off the name, and hoping that new hiphop fans will check up on his past.
--- Quote from: Pino Gemini on June 14, 2004, 05:47:49 PM ---I feel what you're saying SGV, but Dre's prolly looking at is like this:
Hes got artists like 50, Lloyd Banks, Game ect that are working there asses off, making tracks every day, showing up on radio, magazines, tv ect...Creating a buzz for themselves.
And then hes got Rakim, who is a legend in his own right, but Rakim is just sitting around back in New York prolly expecting Dre to just toss him an album full of beats and then hes out.
Now Dre is thinking why am I gonna give dude a) an album full of beats for nothing when dudes b) c) and d) are putting in mad work for my label and not only creating there own buzz, they are creating a buzz for myself aswell.
People (for the most part) who post on this board are knowledged hiphop heads who know about Rakim. But the majority of people buying albums today (ages say 12-20) dont know shit about Rakim, arent feeling him anymore, or think "wasnt he that guy way back then"...
Now this is no disrespect to Rakim in anyway, but I can understand why his album on Aftermath didnt drop.
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On point.
Aftermath/Interscope isn't interested in only selling to the old Rakim-fans, they want the MTV/TRL fans as well..
Back in the days, you could put out a album, go on tour and promote it, and make good money off it.
It's different today.
Money talks, and Interscope wants the biggest part of the cake.
Dedicato:
ABSOLUTELY AGREED! CHECK THIS! ;)
Stat Quo:
That has to do a lot with, when you talk about music, music is about supply and demand. That's any product you put out here. If you put Ketchup on the shelves, and you donmt market the Ketchup, it's not gonna sell. If you don't create an awareness for aproduct, people are not gonna buy it. So what happends is, when people sign record contracts, they say okay, now the label has to put my record out. No. What you have to do is create your own buzz. You have to get out here and do shows, you gotta get out here and do interviews, you gotta get out here and promote your own songs. You gotta get out here and talk to these people and try to get on other records. You gotta get out here and promote yourself to where you create your own fan base to where people will put your record out. If you don't do that, then you don't deserve to be put out. You don't deserve to be in this business . You're supposed to be doing something else, this is not what your supposed to be doing. This is a job.
Focus...:
To be as honest as possible, Brooklyn is my peoples and we are still cool as shit. Rak, Hit and Emperor I never knew but I knew of. Things are unfortunate. I love working and I know that Dre loves making hot music. If it doesn't feel right, then he looks and works until it does. 50 was going to release an LP regardless, he's hungry like that. Eminem is a beast and Dre saw the eye of the tiger with Em. That's really all I can say, you know.
Focus...:
Brooklyn has the 50Cent by any means neccesary attitude. She's gone drop regardless!!! Rakim is a seasoned vet. He has his way of working his craft. Sometimes artists and producers work ethics dont coincide you know.. i can't really speak on Rak. I got mad respect for him. He is one of the greatest..
So tell me ... WHAT DID RAKIM??? I GOT MAD LOVE FOR HIM, BUT THERE'S A NEW GENERATION OF HIPHOP FANS ... ASK A 14-16 yrs old FAN ... "WHO'S RAKIM?" ... WHAT DO U THINK IS THE ANSWER ... ;)
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