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THE HYPROCRISY OF MUSLIMS

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Smoke:

--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on June 21, 2004, 07:08:11 PM ---Antonio, Ibrahim explained to u the religious dynamic of this question u posed. I will seek to explain the political.

You have accepted this belief that because a few crazed Arabs dedicate a beheading to Allah, all Muslims systematically accept beheadings as a form of exression. Al Qaeda is a political enterprise as much as it is a religious one. It expresses as a stated intention, the over throw of corrupt regimes, morally bankrupt ones in their eyes. Thus, they speak for their own constituencies. Osama bi n Laden and his type do not speak for me or the majority of Muslims. Its that simple. It is incredibly ignorant of you to assume that 1.3 billion people in this world are represented by militants numbering no more than a few thousand.

People have mentioned Islamic insurgencies world wide. Every where, from Alegria to Chechnya to the Phillipines, the Islamic insurgents have all been Wahhabi/Salafists. These are an extreme fanatical version of Islam. Their complaints we Muslims as a whole share. We condemn American policies, we condemn Israel and we condemn and are against the perseqution and oppression of Muslims. But the majority of Muslims, Antonio I assure you do not view the beheading of random non Muslims as dignified, justified or Islamic.

Their is no worldwide Islamic condemnation of these practices for several reasons:

1. The lack of organization. Muslims in this world have no voice and we have our own corrupt political systems and leadership to thank for that.
You expect condemnation from us? This is unrealistic. Who do u expect it from? Our govts are not representative of the greater population. And us Muslims here in the TOT dont go OUT OF OUR WAY to condemn this because we dont believe in this simple as that. These people dont speak for us. To condemn this barbaric behaviour is human. Only those who believe this ideology would wholeheartedly support their measures.

2. We Muslims dont forget the cause of all this. We Muslims condemn the root of the problem before we condemn  effects or actions  occuring as a result of this problem. America needs to clean up its act before it asks us to. You confuse general Muslim anger (which 90% of the Muslim world feels. We are all brother.s This is why a Afghan Muslim from Toronto feels hate for those oppressing Palestinian Arabs.) with extremist expression of this anger tinged with political motives. Its not so black and white my friend.

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Thanx for the reply. But i never assumed that because a few crazed Arabs dedicate a beheading to Allah, all Muslims systematically accept beheadings as a form of exression. Maybe my english wasnt correct enought. In real life i know a lot of muslims. They regret those things, and i appreciate them. I was talking about this forum, not about all the 1.3 billions muslims of the World. Mine is just a provocation, man. I want to discuss about this thing, about the religious and political aspect of some murders in the name of Allah. That's all. I aint condamning Islam (the Church did the same). I just wanna know something more, without dissing each other's like we usually do in the other topics of the forum, and trying to understanding something from your prospective. Pz.

JTSimon:
Blowing some1 into dust...chopping their head off.

Same thing  :)


Money hungry Italian spies deserve to die.

Any foreign person working for/with the enemy is an enemy.

Muslims are dying for their religion like any Christan would. Their demands are simple leave Saudi Arabia/stop supporting Israel.


lol@religion...Bush Jr. thinks he's a crusader  ;D

Smoke:

--- Quote from: Necromonger on June 22, 2004, 04:03:23 AM ---Money hungry Italian spies deserve to die.

Any foreign person working for/with the enemy is an enemy.

Muslims are dying for their religion like any Christan would. Their demands are simple leave Saudi Arabia/stop supporting Israel.
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 :-X :-X :-X

JTSimon:
The civils were on vacation right  ;D during a war.


Oh no not an Italian cook...they don't want you there.
Is that so hard to understand.


Christian lied about faith to survive Saudi siege [read]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1145180/posts

7even:

--- Quote from: Antonio on June 22, 2004, 12:14:50 AM ---7even the Harbinger you aint getting it but you are helping me a lot explaining my points :)


--- Quote ---LoL first dont take me as a repper of Islam. Im an atheist born christian. btw you missed a few Bible quotes if violence in religion is new to you.
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Perfect. Stop here. Wonderful point. See that's what i'm talking about. This is the problem. Christianity is AGAINST violence. For sure there are quotes who looks like God supports violence, but He doesnt. Only if you manipulate the Bible or if you dont ask the help of a Priest, or the Pope, you can make this mistake. So the point is: you all muslims listen to your Imam's (spelled?): they are against terrorism, against murderers, against violence. If you want, you can make the Bible looks like a war book, with beheaded people, violence, horror, revenge, brutatily. It aint. You have to loook throught it to get the real message of it. With the help of the Pope and the Priests. And it's the same with Islam.


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no doubt terroristic muslims pervert their religion. Ive never denied that. bush does it too.

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