DUBCC - Tha Connection > Outbound Connection
i dont like rap anymore
MidoriHaze:
Yer i went through a phase like that last year, i didn't find more than four albums worth listening to *imo. Besides Kanye West's album of this year, i haven't bought a hip hop album since 2002 when i got Nas - The Lost Tapes.
I think all it did was make me get into more ol school artists, personally i used to listen to it but was never really a big gangsta rap fan, for the very reason that the lyrics become repeatative on the similar topics.
As for explicit language in tracks, well that's in a majority of genres so ya can't really escape that.
I was looking forward to Nas new one this year, but i heard one of his new tracks You Know My Style, and personally i find this pretty wack for Nas. I don't know wether its on his new album tho.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: mousehowl on June 25, 2004, 08:02:15 PM ---lol, ya muthafuckas had to turn it into some intellectual battle didn't ya? all i was saying is, i personally don't like listening to retarded rappers kick rhymes about the same old shit, time after time. maybe i used to like it at some point, but now it sucks. same with the beats...
--- End quote ---
LOL... hey... if I got knowledge, I'm using it. I like rap, I've listen to other types of music, grudge being my favorite, but also of course old school R&B like Motown, I'm not a fan of most rock out now, Emo, whatever punk bullshit, but I like lots of other old music. Right now, I listen to rap because to me, rap has the most potential. I understand rappers, and the message because it's from places like where I'm from. I've out grown most forms of rock, I've out grown pop, poppy rap, but what I always comeback to is just straight, raw street rap, real rap, conscience rap if you will, or rap with a political message. I like to hear other types of music, I especially like foreign music, Asian, Latin America is the shit to me, Indian music, I like all that stuff, though when I hear it, I'm like, that would be tight as hell to sample... lol. But whatever, you can say what you want about rap, honestly, it's your opinion. But my main point is that hip-hop reaches me because I live it, I grew up with it around me, I see the streets, I grew up in a place that was economically poor, I had a drug addict mother, so when I hear songs expressing that, I can relate more to that. I hear other songs, they talk about love, friendship, having fun, they reach on a more basic level, and that's fine, I enjoy that, but I'll always turn to rap, because that's my culture, people out grow rap because it's a phase to them, it's cool in high school. To me, it's my culture, it's how I grew up, it's in me. I know old men that listen to Ice Cube and 2Pac still, that's because the culture is touching people at every age. Your parents have certain music, I remember my mother used to pump the OG Chronic with me. Hip-hop is not a phase to everyone. You don't have to like rap no more, that's all good. Personally, if it's just a phase to you, I say you should just stop listening and find your own thing. Because to me, rap is for the real people that live the culture, like Craiga, like Rodzilla, like TimeLock, like DayGoStyle, like myself. Trauma, Jake, everyone else, you don't have to listen to it, you really can't relate, it was great to have you guys at onetime be fans, thanks Trauma for the WC Killaz sight, it was one of the greatest sights for rap music, but if it's just a phase, I'm sorry, to everyone it's not just a phase. It's life to me. I get tired of hearing rap sometimes, but I always comeback after a week... I can't leave rap for long it's who I am.
Shallow:
[Quote from: SMiLE link=board=9;threadid=53880;start=25#msg604517 date=1088116079]
Exactly, especially the part about the mother goose poets. People act like these people are talented, but if you took a friekin' songwriter out of Nashville, and told him to write a rap song, it'd be 10 times better than anything Canibus or Xzibit could come up with.
--- Quote ---
--- End quote ---
Well said.
Shallow:
REPLY TO 7even the Harbinger
--- Quote ---
--- End quote ---
lol wtf..
I dont see why, for instance, (no offense) ppl like Brian Wilson should be considered genius musicians, when ppl like Eminem, Canibus, 2pac or Nas are considered stupid entertainers...
Seriously, I know other music, and the lyrics dont amaze me. Not that they dont own complex rhyme patters and shit, they are also much shorter, repeat often and the message isnt always that great.. mostly about things like love or so, lol, we all know what it is. not to talk about wordplay and methaphours.
now to the instrumental stuff. I got plenty of homies who can play great guitar, piano or drums, seriously. but I know noone, I repeat noone, who can make decent beats.
--- Quote ---
--- End quote ---
It's already been established that Wilson's talent was showcased in his music more so than lyrics. But you wanna talk lyrics; go listen to some old Bob Dylan and then get back to me on how repetitive, short, or unmeaningful it is.
Shallow:
Hey Luke, good for you buddy! (and I don't mean that in a sarcastic way) It's nice to know all my Springsteen pushing has enlightened you (just kidding). Honestly though don't let these guys confuse you. Leaving Hip Hop is not a phase, listenening to it is, at least listening to it exclusively. Once the average music fan discovers the wonders of the rest of the music plateau they rarely go fully back into Hip Hop. One poster said it best when he said Hip Hop is the one genre where who you are is more important what music you make. I'm talking amongst hard core fans. No hard core hard rock fan gives a shit if Metallica do what they sing about. With Hip Hop it's based so much on street cred and stupidity that it takes away from the music. Let's not even get into the fact that 99% of the artists in Hip Hop have no musical talent whatsoever. It's only about the lyrics. The problem is that it isn't. Most rap songs that come out are instrumental and beat driven, the one part of the song that isn't original.
Hip Hop lacks so much that other musics just have, particularly classic rock, anything from the early 60s to the late 70s. Musically there is no argument, but even lyrically there is nothing you can find in Rap that you can't find somewhere else.
Single Mothers- Mama Tried by Mere Haggard, or Welfare Mothers by Niel Young
Gang Fights- Bruce Springsteen- Lost in the flood, or Jungleland
Racism and inequality- Bob Dylan, The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carrol
Self Absorbed Boasting- just about anything by AC/DC
Losing yourself in the image of being cool and accepted and destroying your life while doing so- Bob Dylan, Like a Rolling Stone (ABSOLUTE CLASSIC)
Universal Love and Peace- Too many artists to mention (John Lennon, Curtis Mayfield, Bob Marley, etc.)
I could go on forever. The main difference with these type of songs and rap songs is most of these songs have great meaings and morals hidden in the lyrics. They don't come right and say it, they make you think about. These songs also have a certain poetry that rap lacks. Rap music is filled with so much slang it takes away from the poetry. It's more about being witty than being beautiful. All those who truely are passionate about the art of song and music will come to realize this. Of Course these are only my opinions and cannot be proven, however I can still make predictions.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[*] Previous page
Go to full version